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Post by 1993ka24det » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:37 pm

The project will consist of a frame like the Ariel Atom and will weigh around 900-1200 lbs.
The Uprights and Brakes will be from a Miata, A arms are custom made. The engine is most likely going to be SR20, I know why. The reason of the engine choice is because every pound counts and the differance between KA and SR is about 61 lbs. I was looking at a GTIR SR20, then use a FWD trans. The entire price of the car is $6500.
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Post by tom550 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:49 pm

i really wish i had a pipe bender and welding equipment. you got me loving exo cars. i really with i could start one now.
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Post by Jus14 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:12 pm

That sounds interesting...i like the hayabusa smart car..some people been doing lately..stuff like this entertains me
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Post by Walperstyle » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:02 am

Well, best of luck. The atom works because its had a lot of engineering into it.

Look at the Tremontana or whatever its called. Its a huge failure, but in the same class. I suppose if you stick to the same geometry as a car like a Miata, You can't go wrong.
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Post by WacingWandy's240 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:38 am

I've been thinking of doing one too. I think it would be fun. There is a lot of stuff to take into consideration though. The new arial atom has a v8 and its not quite as good as the first because of the added weight in the rear and the extra power make it to hard to drive. Good luck!
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Post by 1993ka24det » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:16 pm

Thanks guys for the support. The suspension geometry doesnt need to be spot on, most of the custom cars ive watched being built and there A arms were horizontaly. But if I cant find the angle of the Atom's A arms, then I will copy the miatas. The coil suspension will be off a R1 bike and I will be setup in a Pushrod configuration

This isnt to dicourage anyone on there current project or/and car. this is just to show you what im looking at on a daily basis

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Post by TinyT » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:22 pm

thats kinda cool. better buy a poncho.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:50 pm

If i was back in FL i would worry about the rain. But since Im in New Mexico Im not worried about it. Im worried more about getting sand blasted
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Post by TryingToTurbo » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:34 pm

I've always wanted to do this. With a sc ka, it would be naaaaasty.
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Post by tom550 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:46 pm

1993ka24det wrote:If i was back in FL i would worry about the rain. But since Im in New Mexico Im not worried about it. Im worried more about getting sand blasted
yea today was horrible in ABQ. idk about clovis but at least here it will be a raining one min then 2 min later there wont be a clud in the sky then. :?

but i really like the MATRIX MOTOR WERKS frame design.
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Post by TryingToTurbo » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:02 pm

tom550 wrote:
1993ka24det wrote:If i was back in FL i would worry about the rain. But since Im in New Mexico Im not worried about it. Im worried more about getting sand blasted
yea today was horrible in ABQ. idk about clovis but at least here it will be a raining one min then 2 min later there wont be a clud in the sky then. :?

but i really like the MATRIX MOTOR WERKS frame design.
you have cluds in the sky where you are at? strange. we usually have clouds where I live when it rains.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:28 pm

yes we have clouds and with 50 mph winds every day with sand storms. If it does rain, it rains mud, but usually its about 15% humidity.
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Post by nx2000det » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:29 pm

Is that frame from a kit?
or did that company custom make it?


I like the fwd sr20 idea and a qr 6speed

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Post by 1993ka24det » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:50 pm

the company (matrix motor werks) makes them and the cars come fully assimbled with out engines. The engine that the frame is made for is a Porsche or a EJ25 (Subi). For about $13,000.
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Post by tom550 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:31 pm

is it $13k with the engine or without?
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Post by 1993ka24det » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:32 pm

W/O but you can use what ever engine aslong it is a boxer engine. thats y im making my own from scratch with the sr
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Post by TanManS14 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:20 am

This thing is just sick. When i grow up, i totally want to have one. GTM super car is where its at.

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Post by tom550 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:44 am

yea ill see in the next few years where im at to see if i want to build one. i want one now but thats not happening.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:50 am

does anyone know if you can convert a linkage type trans to a cable shift or if when you transfer the engine from a fwd to a mid engine setup. will the shift linkage be useable as tha mid engine. PS the car will be RHD since I dont have to F around with dashes or firewalls.
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Post by nx2000det » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:30 am

1993ka24det wrote:does anyone know if you can convert a linkage type trans to a cable shift or if when you transfer the engine from a fwd to a mid engine setup. will the shift linkage be useable as tha mid engine. PS the car will be RHD since I dont have to F around with dashes or firewalls.
if you use a qr 6speed trans, it is already a cable shifted trans,

also... is everything but an engine/trans included for 13k?

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Post by 1993ka24det » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:18 am

nx2000det wrote:
1993ka24det wrote:does anyone know if you can convert a linkage type trans to a cable shift or if when you transfer the engine from a fwd to a mid engine setup. will the shift linkage be useable as tha mid engine. PS the car will be RHD since I dont have to F around with dashes or firewalls.
if you use a qr 6speed trans, it is already a cable shifted trans,

also... is everything but an engine/trans included for 13k?
yes I stated that last night, and does the QR tarns bolt right up to the SR
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Post by nx2000det » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:23 am

1993ka24det wrote:
nx2000det wrote:
1993ka24det wrote:does anyone know if you can convert a linkage type trans to a cable shift or if when you transfer the engine from a fwd to a mid engine setup. will the shift linkage be useable as tha mid engine. PS the car will be RHD since I dont have to F around with dashes or firewalls.
if you use a qr 6speed trans, it is already a cable shifted trans,

also... is everything but an engine/trans included for 13k?
yes I stated that last night
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only thing needed to make the qr trans bolt on the sr20 is the p12 bellhousing.
or you could just buy a p12 trans that is imported.
but it wont be locking.
but you can use the hlsd from the qr to swap into it.

Thats what im doing for my bluebird motor in my NX.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:12 am

the matrix motor werks is selling there hayabusa powered car BEC
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Post by 1993ka24det » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:34 pm

I found a trans for $600 but what about finding a FWD SR20 and ideas for a cheap price w/everything. Wires/computer/sensors/etc
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Post by nx2000det » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:37 pm

if your wanting a GTIR block, your gonna pay.
if you want just a DE block you can get jdm imports under 500.
if you want a VE or DET your going to be around 1k-1.2k

all depends on what your going to do. NA or FI

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Post by itwillboost » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:03 pm

Subbed, keep updating this. It seems like a cool project.

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Post by 1993ka24det » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:33 am

GTIR Engine about $1500
the v6 is going to be a little heavy, every pound counts
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Post by nx2000det » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:08 am

1993ka24det wrote:GTIR Engine about $1500
the v6 is going to be a little heavy, every pound counts
IMO the GTIR is just bragging rights if your not going for huge HP
If you'll stay under or around 400whp a regular DET will do.

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Post by 1993ka24det » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:57 pm

a Bluebird engine is between $1200-$1500 and i still need to find the trans
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Post by nx2000det » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:08 pm

theres always a B15 or P11 trans (both 5 speeds) but they are linkage shifted.
used ones of those around 8-900. they bolt right on.

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