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Post by nx2000det » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:49 am

you realize that weight you have for a vq would change if you turbo it...

and from what ive read/heard vq's dont like to go over 400hp without breaking, and they usually have alot of blowby

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Post by tom550 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:25 am

why dont you get a i6? the torque would be there. might be lighter. and balenced better. less moving parts. i would say why not look into a 2jz but thats also because im a huge fan of supras. it might also be hard to find. and if your not going to build it then those still make crazy power stock.
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Post by sicks13 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:32 am

tom550 wrote:why dont you get a i6? the torque would be there. might be lighter. and balenced better. less moving parts.
How does a Inline 6 have less moving parts than a V-6??

Anyway, I like the looks of this project..
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Post by beercandrifter » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:37 am

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tom550 wrote:why dont you get a i6? the torque would be there. might be lighter. and balenced better. less moving parts.
How does a Inline 6 have less moving parts than a V-6??

Anyway, I like the looks of this project..
has less parts to replace =) (ie head studs, head gaskets)

the rb engines seem to be in short supply however, the vq on the other hand are becoming almost as available as the ka's, just wish the price were that of a 20 year old engine!

have you had a chance to compare the physical sizes of both engines? would be interested to see that. No reason you couldnt run a collector on the exhaust to a turbo rather than run dual turbos, seen my share of v8's who take that route
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Post by tom550 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:43 am

your running 2 heads where i6 you have 1.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:40 am

Ive been reading up on the Straight 6 and they would weight between 420 lb to 500 lb and tring to find a FWD trani. The VQ is cheap and only 2 lb more than the SR with 25 more hp and 75 foot pounds more torque.
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Post by beercandrifter » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:10 pm

out of curiosity, where are you finding those vq's for so cheap
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Post by nx2000det » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:14 pm

and how do you expect to boost the VQ without adding weight to it?

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Post by 1993ka24det » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:23 pm

I just got off the phone with and engine supply company and the engine is 1300 and the trani is more. It says on the website the engine info then AT or MT, but that for what ECU comes with the engine. I prob wouldn't turbo it until I get use to the 230 whp (just think of a Hayabusa on four wheels and twice the weight).
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Post by 1993ka24det » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:14 pm

I was talking to the guys Locostusa and the weight of the car, it is most likly going to be around 1200-1300 lbs.The engine is going to be around $1350 w/a 6 month warranty and trani is going to be around 500-800 dollars. But what I was told was, "buy facory parts until you have it running, then upgrade those parts" If you pay for only expensive parts then your project will never be done.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:02 pm

Im liking the SL-R chassis better and better everytime I see it and I like the side radiator scoops, low chassis height and the huge engine room.


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Post by tom550 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:28 pm

so are you going to copy a frame or just use one as something to follow and mod?
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Post by 1993ka24det » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:18 pm

I want to follow on and make changes to fit in a VQ35 and I might make copies of the frame.
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Post by tom550 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:27 pm

like spares?
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Post by 1993ka24det » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:42 pm

no frames for other people
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Post by tom550 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:16 am

Around how much you think you will charge?
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Post by airman » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:41 am

ONE MILLION DOLLARS *Dr. Evil pinky thing*

Looking good dude, my roommate has something very similar in mind once we all get out of college, he's a DSM guy so he's wanting to put a 4g63 in it and make it AWD - he's banged his head on the wall over it for months trying to figure out the best way to situate the transmission/which one to use.

I may have missed it, but what are you doing for drivetrain?

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Post by 1993ka24det » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:08 pm

I have thought about a 4G63 but he's talking about adding another 300-400 lbs + another 100 lbs more for the Engine/Trans for the cast iron block and heavy trans. But Im going with a VQ35DE V6 and the Maxima Trans. The engine by it self is 330 lbs and makes the torq I need.

Just scan trough the post, that why its there.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:55 pm

I know Im thinking ahead but I keep thinking of the SEXY exhaust tone of the VQ35DE engine and was woundering what if any body knows of a good sexy muffler. I thought of running a flowmaster, to give it a deep rumble but when I looked it up on youtube it didn't sound right at all so here is my second thought and its light. Does anybody else have any thoughts?

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Post by 1993ka24det » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:55 pm

I was looking at current gas prices and what they are est to go over $5.00/a gallon. So Im happy that Im doing this project, but I wish electric batteries would charge up faster. Then I would go with 2 200hp electric motors, because each motor puts out 390 ft/lbs or torq from 0-8000rpm. That would add alot of wieght, 10-20 70lbs batteries plus 2 140lbs motors. Im not saying Im going to do it, because of the cost and the time it takes to charge it up.

Currently Im waiting on some more money to buy the trans and the tubes for the frame. Then I will buy it all at once and I will show you guy the progress pics of what Im working with. I will be runing the headers clockwise or counter clockwise and with dual mufflers, each muffler will have one (3 cylinders) header each.
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Post by DEEPfrom1 » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:17 am

Have you considered a CA18det? Even lighter, cheaper, and a sweet powerband for that kind of car. Just a thought, sweet project btw.
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Post by 1993ka24det » Sun May 01, 2011 11:58 pm

I still like the torque of the VQ and as all can say the VQ35DE has a damn sexy exhaust note.
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Post by Jordan Gladman » Sun May 29, 2011 10:45 am

1993ka24det wrote:Im liking the SL-R chassis better and better everytime I see it and I like the side radiator scoops, low chassis height and the huge engine room.


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Post by tom550 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:09 pm

updates?
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Post by Jordan Gladman » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:02 am

^ dito :wink:
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Post by superDorifto » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:41 pm

I admire your dedication. I spent a good deal of time over the last 3 years over on locostusa.com, drooling over the lotus replicas, and planning on my own.

Was planning a KA-T powered lotus replica with IRS from an s13, and a miata front end. By January of this year my basement had 3 extra KAs, 2 VLSDs, a complete rear s13 subframe, and a manual miata steering rack all taking up space in the corner.
I got as far as ordering all the steel for the frame and cutting nearly all of the chassis peices. I even started the welding process. That alone took me 3 years...the frame is still on the build table in my basement :cry:

What finally broke my will to finish was a single day where I read a post on the locost forums where a dude was building his own pedal box assy. It was great fabrication, and I got excited at first. Until I realized that his build thread was 5+ years long...I realized that day that I would never finish my build...it would consume me, and I would spend YEARS building this thing.

So back in April I cut my loses and bought another 240 to play with...

I hope you carry through and finish. Subscribed.

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Post by tom550 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:26 pm

UPDATES? :cry:
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Post by zlatsky » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:55 pm

that's awesome

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