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Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:16 pm

I have a Ka-t that I just finished assembling. Build specs are
Ka bored .40 over
Cosmetic head gasket
Arp head studs
Arp rod bolts
Brian crower rods
Arias 8.8 pistons
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Cx racing forward mount manifold
Garrett gt35r twin scroll
800cc injectors
Log intake

My question is, I want to run 20lbs of boost, will the aem fic be able to keep up or should I sell it and get a full standalone?

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Post by jaysol92 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:15 am

20-25 psi on a 35r can net some serious power, if your block is modded id say standalone so you can get more out of your setup. Hope this helps.

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Post by 2FAS240 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:47 am

I ran a similar setup last year and i would say get a standalone you will end up with a much safer tune in the end.

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Post by airman » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:48 am

With a nice turbo such as the twin scroll GT35R you have picked out, I wouldn't skimp on and buy a sub $200 exhaust manifold.

As far as standalone - in my opinion it's well worth it especially once you're investing in the idea of over 400hp. Megasquirt has some great support here locally on the board and can do anything that the AEM and Haltech can do. You could also check out Nismotronic but I'm pretty sure that's a sort of piggy back ECU like Nistune (I may be wrong).
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Post by OnTheChip » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:47 pm

airman wrote:With a nice turbo such as the twin scroll GT35R you have picked out, I wouldn't skimp on and buy a sub $200 exhaust manifold.

As far as standalone - in my opinion it's well worth it especially once you're investing in the idea of over 400hp. Megasquirt has some great support here locally on the board and can do anything that the AEM and Haltech can do. You could also check out Nismotronic but I'm pretty sure that's a sort of piggy back ECU like Nistune (I may be wrong).
Thanks for mentioning Nismotronic!
Nismotronic isn't a piggy-back, it's a stock ECU with real-time programmable (tuning) and data logging system based on an installed daughter-board. What makes NismotronicSA different is that with the TunerCodeSA firmware (included) running the ECU, and the NismotronicSA software running on your laptop, it gives a stock ECU the same functionality as a stand-alone system, including MAF to MAP (speed-density) tuning.
NismotronicSA features.

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Post by 8-bit » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:53 pm

Such high goals should NOT be skimped in the tuning area.

The AEM FIC is not going to be good enough to honor your parts. Get the AEM EMS, megasquirt, haltech, autronic, etc... I wouldn't do a Nistune since with MAFS you won't really want to go over 20psi, but I can bet you that once you hit 20 psi, you will want to hit 25psi and then 30.
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Post by airman » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:15 am

^ Definitely pay attention to what 8bit says. I didn't notice that you had listed an AEM FIC in your parts list.

Nonono! :)
OnTheChip wrote:Thanks for mentioning Nismotronic!
Haha no problem, I know it's an option but having never owned one I don't have any testimonies about it :)
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Post by denty95 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:16 am

Well the cx racing manifold is one of the only ones that mounts the turbo in the front of the motor. It's actually very nice and was more than $200

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Post by denty95 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:53 pm

8bit, or anyone else, what kind of hp numbers do you think im capable of with this setup?

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Post by jaysol92 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:55 am

on what kind of fuel?

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:01 pm

93 octane for daily.
when i take it to tx2k im going to use c16 and get a retune
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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:28 pm

heres a picture of the motor in question
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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by jaysol92 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:26 am

denty95 wrote:93 octane for daily.
when i take it to tx2k im going to use c16 and get a retune
Nice man engine is clean . Make sure you keep us posted on your progress =)

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Post by KA-T S12 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:49 pm

^ agreed. Can't see anything that I don't like there. Keep it up 8)

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:23 pm

thanks guys. i definately will. i moved the car around today and finished prepping the engine bay for the motor. should be any day now
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:35 pm

okay so I need a bov and wastegate. was looking at the tial 38mm wastegate and an hks bov. was going to help out some ka-t members but I cant view the sale adds... lame. anyone have any suggestions on other bov and wastegates?
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Post by Grant » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:52 am

denty95 wrote:8bit, or anyone else, what kind of hp numbers do you think im capable of with this setup?

im guessing anywhere 350/400 range.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:27 am

I didn't see any with a gt35r..
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by jaysol92 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:59 am

I know the Tial Q 50mm bov is amazing for the price, and a Tial 38mm wastegate should be fine for your setup. Tial makes great products.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:05 am

Yeah I bought a fully polished tial 38mm wastegate and I'm looking at an Hks super ssqv 4
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:52 pm

I got my bov and AEM in the mail, so in went the motor tonight. Its a tight fit, but im going to make it work.
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:44 am

where does everyone put their gauges? I see people use the steering wheel pod but I have 3 gauges and id rather not split them up.
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Post by mmmS13 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:56 pm

denty95 wrote:where does everyone put their gauges? I see people use the steering wheel pod but I have 3 gauges and id rather not split them up.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/chat/93275-pict ... etups.html

That thread should get you some ideas of where you could put them. Personally I have mine right above the steering wheel (wideband + boost gauge) it doesn't really block sight of the tach or anything but sometimes I wish I would have put them where the radio is. (I stare at my wideband constantly and give myself the "heebie-jeebies" of being lean when not in boost lol)
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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:40 pm

Thanks I didn't even see that thread. I have 3 gauges so I'd like to keep them together
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:06 am

Here's what I ended up doing, no a/c, so I cut the vents out.
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:08 am

I decided I was tired of wiring last night, so I welded my core support back in and out my fenders and hood back on, anyone else's turbo not clear the hood? :/
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:19 pm

thanks man I appreciate it. heres how it sits as of tonight. tomorrow I have to make a faceplate for my gauges and put my bride reps in.
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by Grant » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:33 am

nice progress man

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Re: Just a few questions regarding a tune

Post by denty95 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:16 pm

Thanks. I have to pull the valve cover and stuff to put my new bc stage 2 Cams in.
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arias 8.8 pistons, brian crower rods, acl bearings, brian crower stage 2 cams, cx racing front mount turbo manifold, gt35r, 850cc injectors, apexi dual n1, greddy profec-II, xcessive intake, AEM EMS, cometic hg.

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