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transmission wont slide in.?

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well decided to do my white bunny. was tired or my clutch slipping every time i hit boost.

well got everything done but now the transmission wont go all the way in. it has like 1-1.5" left to sit flat on engine. i feel the transmition shaft isnt going in in the clutch disk.

we moved the trany around for a good 2-3 hours and still couldnt get it in. is there a way to turn the shaft? i feel the shaft isnt alligned up with clutch disk.

just need to get the trany in then bolt everything up.

is there some way to allign the clutch dick with the trany to just slide it in.?

cant reach in the front of trany to spin the shaft when its that close.
i dont think it does but does the front shaft spin when turn the drive shaft when trany is in N?
tryed spinning drive shaft when in gear and not. still nothing.
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I always have trouble getting the tranny back in unless I jack the front of the motor up a bit. Then it just slides right in.
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will try that. i really dont want to pull the trany out again. especially cuz i dont have any of the right tools.
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It's been a while, so I don't remember all of the details, but I think I used a cherry picker to lift the front of the motor. I'm not sure if there's a good point on the front of the motor to actually jack it up. This is a S14, btw, so it may not work in your situation.
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yea well my MAN jack i borrowed, my puss jack, and the jack i found in my car are what i have to work with so i will figure something out.
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i found that my pressure plate was not lined up properly and it was causing the same issue. it was off by a millimeter and I didnt catch it. it was just enough to let it in a little bit, but not all the way because it was catching on the edge of the clutch
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if 1 of those jacks is not being used, put a block of wood or something on top of it and jack the front of the engine by the oil pan, shouldn't need to jack it a whole lot, do loosen the motor mounts some though.

if everything is lined up correctly then it shouldn't have too much of a problem going in, i usually put a bolt on each side to help it go in.
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Dont try and spin the shaft to allign it up with the clutch disk,put the trans in gear so the shaft cant move and rotate the trans back and forth and push it till the shaft lines up with the disk,or hold the trans in and apply pressure and have someone get a ratchet and turn crank to get the teeth to line up and slide in.usually the first option works everytime for me
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i wish you had a lift.

i have swap out that damn trans in my car like 8 times lol.

the one thing i know is your gunna have to clock the trans to the right 1-2 inches to clear the fire wall.

i would deff tilt the motor back a few inches. thats the only way i have been able to get them in. then once you get the input shaft in the pressure plat you reach your hand in their and feel how far witch way you would need to move the tranny to get the tip of the im put shaft in the clutch splines then just shake and twist wile trying to push it in.

and did you make sure the clutch splines match the trans input shaft splines?
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Jmcc wrote:i wish you had a lift.
lol, 240 owners are a bunch of cheap guys that hardly buy quality parts let alone have the right equipment to work on stuff.

when i do a trans in car, i put my cherry picker on the motor and lower the back of the motor to the firewall. gives a nice angle to get the trans on. bear hug the bi*ch and get the shaft started, spin it back and forth and it usually takes pretty easy.
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Post by biggie »

1. hope a clutch alignment tool was used.
2. Jack up front of engine with 2x4 as mentioned
3. wiggle and turn the tranny back and forth as you push it in
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TinyT wrote:lol, 240 owners are a bunch of cheap guys that hardly buy quality parts let alone have the right equipment to work on stuff.
yep! if i dont have the tool then will attempt to rig something up before i even think about actually paying a few pennys. but im also just in HighSchool, working with 3K a year job, and using tools my dad had which is basicly wrenches, the smallest jack ive ever seen, and no previous knowledge about cars untill i sat down and started reaserching online, then going to my car and just jumping into it.

if you ask me ive come pretty far. :D

well going to work on my POS now and see if i can get it in,
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TinyT wrote:lol, 240 owners are a bunch of cheap guys that hardly buy quality parts let alone have the right equipment to work on stuff.

lol no honda guys are :D
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Jmcc wrote:
TinyT wrote:lol, 240 owners are a bunch of cheap guys that hardly buy quality parts let alone have the right equipment to work on stuff.

lol no honda guys are :D
um what? the amount of nice hondas to 240s is 10 to 1

and tom i wasnt meaning anything against you, just stating that jmcc's comment about you needing a lift was a little unreal
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Post by Freise »

I had a similar problem, the new pilot bushing I had was about a millimeter off, I had three of them and all three would compress slightly when inserted, I actually had to take a small sanding wheel and dremel and remove a tiny amount of material from in inside of the pilot bushing. Slid right in after that.
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ive pulled just the tranny about 3 times in mine, and everytime i get more pissed off about deciding to do it bc all i do is fight with it the same way you are... id rather pull the tranny with the motor and be done with it... unless i have access to our 2 post or 4 post lift at work
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jack front of motor, insert tranny.

when you lift the tranny on a jack that rolls fore/aft, most of the work is done for you and all you really need to do is ram that tranny in there! I've found you gotta jerk it around a bit and some wiggle and jam action, but it goes in in about 1-2 mins for me.

The main thing is to have the tranny already somewhat positioned by having the motor leaned back with the jack and also the tranny ON a jack and angled so that the load is off you and you can use your energy to wiggle and jam.

if those basic things don't work for you, then hit the gym more often or try re-attaching your clutch with the alignment tool. Also make sure the pilot bearing doesnt' have dookie in it.
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8-bit wrote:I've found you gotta jerk it around a bit and some wiggle and jam action, but it goes in in about 1-2 mins for me.
This goes for many things you encounter in life....

If there is no fluid in your tranny, twist it to where the top of the bellhousing if pointing to the passenger side of your car. This has always helped me.

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got it on. lifting the engine helped. after that we just wiggled and it slid in. im so happy i didnt have to pull it down again. but im sad now.
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TinyT wrote:and tom i wasnt meaning anything against you, just stating that jmcc's comment about you needing a lift was a little unreal
i didnt take it any bad way. just saying what i deal with. lol

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I but the cherry picker on mine and lower the K-member bolts a few turns. Slides right in every time. This was with my SR bell housing which is more squared off at the top and IMO more of a PITA.
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TinyT wrote:um what? the amount of nice hondas to 240s is 10 to 1
well maybe by you over by me there is proly only a few real nice hondas i have ever seen out of the couple 1,000 just in my city.
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Jmcc wrote:
TinyT wrote:um what? the amount of nice hondas to 240s is 10 to 1
well maybe by you over by me there is proly only a few real nice hondas i have ever seen out of the couple 1,000 just in my city.

well since he got the trans in i dont care about threadjacking.... im saying in general, everywhere. there are far more nice honda builds than nissan builds.
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but jmcc you are in o-town...between puerto rican guys who put an exhaust on just about anything to kids with parents who have money, it is all there.

I went to UCF from '01- '05 and we use to meet at bennigans on 50 by the mall. It was a nissan meet but honda's and other makes (kids) would come peeling out and doing dumb sh!t that got us kicked out by the cops. I have seen some horrible 240's in Palm Beach County and some nice one's as well. It just sux to see a 98 s14 riced out. Altezza lights, off the shelf rims, slammed with a coffee can exhaust.

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in my city in volusia their are only like 12 240's out of 70,000 plus ppl only like 5 real nice one's you never really see out and about. but yea i mean between states every thing is so diff. and your right out of the 200 diff honda hatches i always see their all the same big loud fart can's and cut springs. and all got us kicked out of every place we used to be able to hang out at.


and tom 550 sorry for being a thread jacker lol. glad to see you got it in and running again. im not gunna have my 240 back on the road till next spring :cry:
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i got to agree with tiny.
i have seen one 40 where i live that is pretty nice. well a few on craigslist but most i see are well like mine :lol:
the ammount of nice hondas i see i way more than how many 40s i see.
there are a few crap hondas but there are alot that are pretty nice.
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go ahead and thread jack all you want. i got my problem resolved so i could care less where this goes now.
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Post by supakat »

how far are you from daytona? Do you stay in Deltona?

we thread jacked sorry. I just got my baby back on the road. I swapped in a stock motor and have to retune. My other motor was stock but I had a mild port and polish. Cruing AFR's are str8 but boost regions need to lean out. The other motor is gonna get the goods next spring.
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yea im in deltona. 30-40 min from daytona
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