Low 9s ka-240

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:00 pm

Hi guys,

Stay KA · Post by **Stay KA** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:51 pm

nice goal

BRAD D · Post by **BRAD D** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:52 pm

wizard wrote:9.3 141mph @7300rpm

Your going to need some tall tires and steep gearing... or do the run in all 5 gears

ka silvia · Post by **ka silvia** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:01 pm

wow i wouldnt mind seeing pics of all your swaps. Thats a cool collection you have. Good luck with your goal. Im just surprised you didnt do an sr lol. Swapped everything in but that. On a side note, video or sound clips would be sweet.

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:03 pm

Could someone give me a clue how to load pics here?

BRAD D · Post by **BRAD D** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:36 pm

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:37 pm

BRAD D · Post by **BRAD D** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:37 pm

Looks nice

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:54 pm

Thanks man,

Post by **klattr1** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:07 pm

good luck to ya...you got a few people to compete with (Ivan, Steve, Brad, etc)...should be fun

i remember that yellow s13 a few years back...also remember seeing it on eGay....

Cobra723 · Post by **Cobra723** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:08 pm

i remember seeing ur car on local miami paper a few years back when i was on vacation in fl. ur an idol around here with ppl that have 240's. glad to see u going the ka-t route. make sure to check out http://www.sfl240sx.com if ur not already on there. should shut up some of the sr guys with u on there

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:36 pm

Hey thanks cobra,

9sec240 · Post by **9sec240** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:35 pm

"Gunning 4 first into 9s 240-ka24"

You better be quick about it

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:33 pm

9sec240 wrote:"Gunning 4 first into 9s 240-ka24"

You better be quick about it

I allways win

lucky you had a head start. You have 30 days Ivan!!

BRAD D · Post by **BRAD D** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:01 pm

So what parts are you looking at? turbo, trans, ecu....

efeezi · Post by **efeezi** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:58 pm

Welcome and good luck to you.

With a 2250lb car, 10's on a stock motor should be cake.

9sec240 · Post by **9sec240** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:33 am

wizard wrote:
9sec240 wrote:"Gunning 4 first into 9s 240-ka24"

You better be quick about it
I allways win lucky you had a head start. You have 30 days Ivan!!

You have 3 days

I am headed to the track on Thursday night..

http://www.turbo240.com/videos/turbo240ivan6.zip

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:56 am

9sec240 wrote:
wizard wrote:
9sec240 wrote:"Gunning 4 first into 9s 240-ka24"

You better be quick about it
I allways win lucky you had a head start. You have 30 days Ivan!!
You have 3 days I am headed to the track on Thursday night..

http://www.turbo240.com/videos/turbo240ivan6.zip

Well....good luck, let me know what happens, of course. I hope you do well you should probably just keep it in the tens for now, its much safer there. The devil lives in the nines

Post by **klattr1** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:14 am

yea cuz 10.1 is that much different than 9.99

Cobra723 · Post by **Cobra723** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:25 am

nice ivan! when is the 8 sec pass coming? sorry for the threadjack

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:53 am

klattr1 wrote:yea cuz 10.1 is that much different than 9.99

I hope that was a joke.

Post by **klattr1** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:17 am

you tell me, you are the wizard...

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:54 am

klattr1 wrote:you tell me, you are the wizard...

9sec240 · Post by **9sec240** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:02 am

Two days left Wizard... You ready yet?

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:28 am

9sec240 wrote:Two days left Wizard... You ready yet?

I think I will have to give round one to you.CONGRATS in advance, hope you make, it as a matter o fact you are right there 10.1 143mph good. whats your 60ft time 1.8? I guess I will just have to go deeper in the nines.

9sec240 · Post by **9sec240** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:03 am

wizard wrote:
9sec240 wrote:Two days left Wizard... You ready yet?
I think I will have to give round one to you.CONGRATS in advance, hope you make, it as a matter o fact you are right there 10.1 143mph good. whats your 60ft time 1.8? I guess I will just have to go deeper in the nines.

How about working on a running car first... Baby steps my friend... baby steps....

STFU · Post by **STFU** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:50 pm

Se let me get this straight Gandolf, Your car does not even run yet let alone made a 14, 13,12,10, or 9 sec pass on the KA motor?!?!? but in 30 days you are going to cut a 9. you might want to lay off the fairy dust Mr Wizard

This amount could have bought after market stuff but almost everybody I know who build ka blow them after a couple of runs

Who the hell are building the motors?? do they have a any idea what they are doing?

I think I have figured out why but since I am not a mechanic I cannot challenge an engine builder with my theories but rather have to prove them to be correct

get outta here!!!! you are not a mechanic!!!! you had me fooled.

The true mark of a good engine is how easy you can get the torque band to be in sync with its hp; 400hp/400torque. Porsche, bmw and a few other import companies have managed to accomplish this

yeah or the fact that they are building cars that are meant to be more street driven and track based with a more usable power band.

Although you can prove me wrong by posting up some dyno sheets from the elusive Factory porsche and BMW built drag cars. that might shut me up.

wizard · Post by **wizard** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:45 pm

Ivan I truly wish you well.

9sec240 · Post by **9sec240** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:52 pm

wizard wrote:I will only be posting a picture of the car when its done and will not be posting on your precious site until then, have fun beating each others chest.

You crack me up.... I am going to have some fun with this...

Most everybody here will agree that its easier to respect a person for SHOWING their accomplishments rather than just stating their goals (obtainable or not)... Your goals are lofty to say the least and some of the more knowledgable people here would say they were on the unrealistic end of the spectrum...

The weight your shooting for is on the light side.. 2250 is 350 lbs less than my car... With an S13 your starting off with a lighter car so that will help but finding another 250ish lbs to remove from the car will be tough without gutting the car completely... Is it possible to get a car to that weight?? for sure...

Assuming you hit your cars target weight and figuring your weight at 200 lbs with racing gear on, you will need aprox 540 whp to pull 141 mph traps... Certainly obtainable on a built KA... but pulling a 9.3 with those traps will be impossible unless you are making over 600 whp, have perfect traction, 60ft like mad and then hit the brakes at the end of the quarter mile...

I would have to assume that your using an AT trans to obtain your goal as your traps versus your ET kind of dictates that... If your planning on using a manual trans, then your traps will be much higher than you stated to run a 9.3 ET... More along the lines of Mark's 154 mph trap speeds (which by the way you would need nearly 700 whp for).... So back to assuming your using an AT trans... for you to state 7300 rpms at the beams would be a gusstimate at best... Torque convertors are a funny thing

Without testing, you can only guess as to what your rpms will be crossing the line....

Your theroies of HP matching TQ to keep a motor together are.... well... I wont go there... To assume that you can keep these numbers identical with a turbo large enough to provide the power you need to run your ET goal is kind of laughable.... It wont spool soon enough to make TQ equal to the HP your shooting for.... Or you would have to build a motor that DROPS volumetric efficiency with RPMS to meet those goals.... If your pulling 7300 rpms, your WAY past 5252 rpms where HP and TQ are equal so your torque (VE) at 7300 would have to be WAY down from your peak (or TQ at 5252) to keep your HP numbers the same as peak TQ....

Pulling twenty 10 second passes on a stock motor would be cool... I think that SMR has been doing that for a while though using nitrous on stock motors to run in the 10s.... His car is purpose built for drag racing and he has been at it for a while.... Can YOU do this?? For sure.... You spend enough money in the right places and sombody will build you that car...

I think that most people here wish you the best of luck and look forward to seeing your progress... I for one am interested in how close your checkbook can get you to your goals... Keep us updated.... in the mean time.... I am going to go back to "beating my chest" about my 700+ whp low 10 second 240sx that I built with my own hands with the help of my friends

smracing · Post by **smracing** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:22 pm

Come on guys, it only took me 1000 passes to figure out how to run 10's with a stock motor that has the same peak torque as hp. I think that means anyone can do it.

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