232 cams vs 264 cams Dyno (Virtual dyno)

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232 cams vs 264 cams Dyno (Virtual dyno)

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Did few pulls tonight and got some logs. Here are the results:

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The cams ARE NOT DEGREED. I simply did the installation. I was running on my regular map so no tuning was made yet. I was not using my water only injection map which is more agressive. I don't really look at the numbers but more at the powerband changes.

A lot of factors were not the same when I did the pulls like the road conditions, temperature, etc so draw your own conclusion. To me, the change is noticeable. Time to do some degree and see the benefits !
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Looks good. More area under the curve since it does not drop off.
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Awesome! I can't wait to test mine out. I like how they give you much better top end, without sacrifice to the bottom end.
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jholman05 wrote:Awesome! I can't wait to test mine out. I like how they give you much better top end, without sacrifice to the bottom end.
I was hoping they were gonna do that and they did. Looking forward to see your results.
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Looks good.
Looks like you could take it to 7k without much if any power drop.
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When you degree them, you will move the graph to the left so you should notice a difference.
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nice gains across the board, negledgable losses down low at 10#, very nice. yeah, id def like to see you rev it out to 7200ish, tq's dying but that HP still looks strong way up top. i think im pretty much sold. you can own these cams AND JWT gears for $370.... how can you beat that?
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By making your own cam gears!
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Eazye2000, a very seasaoned and knowledgable member on here,said he went through 7 gears before he finally nailed it. a few thousandths make a bigger difference in degrees than we realize.
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Yea but that thou can make it closer to the cam card maybe. That is the only thing I hate about the gears. You are limited to 2.5 degree's.
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Hey repotatoes what turbo are you running. The graph looks really close to my old S15 t28 turbo setup at 14psi with bc 264 cams and 9.0:1 Je pistons. But at that time my cams were just dropped in and shimmed correctly no jwt gears.
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hes still on the 2871 from his sig. def a nice curve outta that snail.
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I will order some sprockets soon.
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update?
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Update...

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Fairly similar results, think I could get one of your .csv files to compare back to back?
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Post by sytfu_S14 »

Have you tried doing a 3rd gear pull to compare with your 3rd gear pull you did with the 232s? I felt a big difference goin from the 232s to these 264s. I'm on 10psi with a t2 3076wg
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sytfu_S14 wrote:Have you tried doing a 3rd gear pull to compare with your 3rd gear pull you did with the 232s? I felt a big difference goin from the 232s to these 264s. I'm on 10psi with a t2 3076wg
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jholman05 wrote:Update...

Fairly similar results, think I could get one of your .csv files to compare back to back?
Sure no problem, I will send them to you.

Unfortunatly, my car is stored for the winter. I haven't done any other pulls or tune on the setup.
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I just did the same with mine this past weekend :cry:

Cool send it over, I think you have my email.. if not try jesseholman@hotmail.com
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Interesting plot of my setup on 12psi vs. redpotatoes on 14psi... pretty similar curves :D

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Nice !
You need to do a 14 psi run and I need to run a water injection tune !
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potatos! fix your links!
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Fixed !
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huh i checked on 2 computers and both pic in your op say "sorry person moved or deleted this image" sup with my sig, cant see it either?
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redpotatoes wrote:Haven't made any changes to my links. Looks like you have problems too if I look at your signature. Seem too be generalized.

Your original links don't work in post number one for me either. His sig looks fine to me...
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Post by sytfu_S14 »

I bought a pair of these 264s and on tbe butt.dyno.it felt.great on 10psi. I did a baseline at my buddies shop on a dynojet and my street.tune on 15psi i put down 391whp 338tq. Setup is a isis v2 bottom mouny t2 3076r internal.wg 850cc and e85. Fmic, turboback
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sdaigle240 wrote:huh i checked on 2 computers and both pic in your op say "sorry person moved or deleted this image" sup with my sig, cant see it either?
My bad, I looked from my phone and links were not showing.

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Re: 232 cams vs 264 cams Dyno (Virtual dyno)

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Nice to see actual numbers. 20hp WOW!
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