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deviousKA wrote:This launch control is based on code written by myself, ported to the sr20det ecu.

Jason I offered to sell you the right to offer my launch control with your tunes, for a damn fair price, why you got to be such a parasite?

DeviousKA, one thing I can assure you is that launch control is NOT based on your code period.

I'm not here to get in a pissing fight its so funny how everyone can jump on a bandwagon and HATE HATE HATE Jason.. Do what you're going to do and im going to try to stay positive and make people happy.

Truth is had some rough times in my personal life but business is awesome just got a DynoJET 224xLC recently and have spent most time tuning newer 02-09 flash based nissans.

I just think you guys need to chill out man seriously most of you haters dont even own or had experience with one of my tunes.
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I would never trust one of your tunes with my motor.
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jason you are a rip off

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you are a piece or work you will answer emails and messages up until i purchase the ecu/tune from you and then no replies n no support
you are a bad name to this business
and no wonder you bought a dynojet rippin people off is a quick way to get toys right
i know my hardearned money is gone n still without a right tune
all you remember is karma is a bi*ch you got my 350 so have fun while it last
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cydewayz wrote:you are a piece or work you will answer emails and messages up until i purchase the ecu/tune from you and then no replies n no support
you are a bad name to this business
and no wonder you bought a dynojet rippin people off is a quick way to get toys right
i know my hardearned money is gone n still without a right tune
all you remember is karma is a bi*ch you got my 350 so have fun while it last
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nosajton wrote:I'm not here to get in a pissing fight its so funny how everyone can jump on a bandwagon and HATE HATE HATE Jason..

Don't you find it strange that other tuners don't get bashed as bad as you? No one is calling out JWT for stealing tunes. No one is calling out Enthalpy for stealing tunes. No one has called out EFI specialists for stealing tunes. Just you. Not only that, but you obviously can't even copy and paste correctly, because I've seen more reports of your tunes blowing motors than I've seen from any other ROM tuner. I have seen complete timing and fuel maps posted on several forums and have seen DeviousKA confirm they were ENthalpy or JWT maps. He has absolutely nothing to gain from posting that information. You have everything to gain by lying about it. DeviousKA has spent his time trying to help others in the community. He is someone to be trusted. You have proven you are not very trustworthy. Hmmm, who to believe here... :roll:

AFter I upgraded to Nistune, I was able to compare the tune you sold me to some other tunes, and although the scaling was slightly different, the timing map from the tune you sold me matched up exactly to a known JWT tune file. I'm sure that was coincidence...
Also, Enthalpy does not appreciate you using their name in your ebay ads, and if you were a somewhat respectable businessman with any sort of ethics, you'd comply with that request. But no, you're more than happy to use their name to sell your half ass product.

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nosajton wrote:I just think you guys need to chill out man seriously most of you haters dont even own or had experience with one of my tunes.
Have you been smoking crack?? A good majority of the haters ARE your former customers, including myself. 8-bit may not be one of your former customers, but he doesn't have to be to know you're a crook. We've both seen numerous posts from folks who have also been very unhappy with your tunes and overall customer service.

I have already posted about my experience with you and your tunes, but let me give an update. I bought an N/A tune from you for a N62 MAF. The first was crap, car wouldn't even idle, let alone make it out of the driveway. After much hassling and many ignored e-mails, I was finally able to track you down through an ebay ad (see reply posted on page 1), and I finally got a new tune. I thought the replacement tune from you was working good. Unfortunately, when I first checked the tune, all I checked was WOT and idle, which was fine.
As it turns out, I should have checked the whole tune, because the car was going off-the-charts lean at high load, low rpm. So, for a long time I've been driving around with this huge lean spot in my tune. Anytime I hit the gas in 4th or 5th at ~2000-3000 rpms, the wideband pegs lean. Luckily, I was able to put together a much better tune based off of 8-bit's turbo tune, which he shared FOR FREE with other members here.

And what about that piece of **** Consult cable that you sell? How can you justify selling those when the friggin connector on the thing literally falls apart from regular use. They should come with a disclaimer that reads "Warning: This connector may fall apart in your hands." And the connector doesn't even fit in a standard Nissan consult port. You basicly have to jam it in your consult port and screw it up. CRAP!

So, two crap tunes and a crap Consult connector. That's 0 for 3. Yeah, no reason to be upset.... :roll:


To any new folks looking for a tune, do the right thing and avoid the guy like the plague.
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Also, I don't know how you guys handle your ebay purchases, but I don't even deal with someone with less than a 98% rating. It's not hard at all to get a 98+ rating if you even halfway care about customer service.....

E-mance's ebay seller account is DRAPE123. He has a "stellar" 95% rating: http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/drape123/
That's a 1 in 20 chance of a bad transaction.... that's crap. Almost every page of his feedback has at least 1 negative feedback. Again, CRAP!
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E-mance timing map compared to a JWT timing map. The 0's indicate the two tunes have the same value.

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since i dont know to much about the situation but i do know that 8-bit has helped me out on several occasions and been correct i have these to add...

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Thanks for the update Adamky. I'm not sure why this guy feels he should be free from criticism. Obviously he has no remorse for his actions, which I would expect from a person who does what he does. One more reason not to buy junk from garbage people.
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Interesting thread.

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I don't know Jason, no have I ever ordered a mail tune for my 240. It is wrong to falsely claim to be someone else in order to make a buck or to reap the benefits of someone elses labor. As for his tunes: If you are so f*cking stupid that you order a tune for a (any) turbo car, slap it in there, and beat it to death without a wideband , then you get what you deserve. NO 2 CARS ARE THE SAME. These are generic tunes. They are designed to get you close, not perfect. At least you should have an AFC in the car and a wideband to fine tune.

I had an s13 a couple years back with a red top sr20 swap in it. It had basic bolt ons (fmic,turbo back,boost cont.,etc.) with the stock t-25. The car had an enthalpy tuned ecu, and the previos owner raved about how great the tune was. I thought "yea, right. We'll see when it goes on the dyno". Shortly after I got it, I installed an AFC in the car, and strapped it to the rollers with a wideband. The afr's were all over the place and the power was low. After a couple dyno pulls and adjustments with the AFC, the car picked up 32whp and and the AFRs were 12.0:1 rock steady under boost across the board. The point I'm pushing is that there is no such thing as a perfect mail order tune, and anyone who thinks so doesn't need to be driving a turbo car in the first place.
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Whatever. I'm tired of being the hater. I've made my point numerous times. I should have just copied/pasted from page 1. If you guys want to deal with someone with 95% feedback and no ethics, have at it. I'll keep supporting the companies and people who DESERVE my hard earned money.
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well i am finally writing up my full experience with emance ecu, and jason....here goes.....

first off i have to say it is my own stupidity that even lead me to do business with this clown in the first place, had i done more research i would have realized that nistune is a far superior product, with far superior tech support,for about the same price.

how it started out was this i sent jason an email through ebay asking about his product/cost/ and tunability, to wich he PROMPTLY responded with the information that he could send everything i needed to tune with for $430 wich was to include ecu,tuned daugherboard and consult, he then went on to state that his boards are compatible with nistune and tunerpro and he would ship this out as soon as he recieved payment. so i paid and two weeks passed without contact (jason does not return email once you send payment), this is when i began to get curious about emance and previous customers experiences, upon searching i found soooo many complaints, poor tunes, unhappy customers, the basic run around from an shady business. i got worried filed a paypal claim came on here and a couple other forums and started bitching and low and behold jason appears again, with the story that he had some family problems and he wasent able to return emails and blah,lie,blah,lie blah. so i said thats fine just send the ecu and when i get it i will drop the paypal dispute, then like magic the ecu was sent that day, i recieved it and began to play with the consult and such to see what i had purchased, i had a hell of a time getting the consult to communicate at all and had to go back are re solder the wiring that he had soldered into the jumper harness, then the consult would commmunicate but only for codes and rom, no active data. i told jason about this and NEVER got a single bit of tech support, the consult still does not work and never has proplerly, so im waiting for my head to get back and i am a little anxious to try the car out since it has just been swapped from auto to a manual and turboed so i decide to try jasons tune out on my stock block, i at this point had no wideband installed so i had no way of verifiying afr's. the car went 6 miles,let me repeat that 6 miles and burnt a hole in the #3 piston.. so i chalked that up to my own ignorance and waited for my head and electronics to show up, now with forged internals and wideband equipted i would have a better idea what was going on.......idle afr's were 10.0 solid, cruise was13.5-15.5 erratic, and wot was hitting 13.0, so as you can tell not a whole lot of time was put into the "tune" for my vehicle, i contacted jason with my problem and he said" sure buddy no problem,just send me 25$ dollars and i will send you a revision immediatley",
the payment was sent via paypal on monday and still no revision. same old run around.

so to date, i have paid $455 (nistune would have been $550) my car still dosent have a decent tune on it, the consult he sent still dosent work and i have now paid twice for something to be done right wich still has not been done.

everyone is free to make there own judgments on jason and emance, this is just a posting of my own experience with the company, if you want someone who will do a **** job and sell you **** equiptment with absolutley NO technical support whatsoever then this is the company you would want to throw your money away too, im done with jason and emance,i have given more than enough fair chances for them to make this right with me. **** business with **** ethics selling **** tunes

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ill make my story short.i ordered my tune in november.and still havent got my car running with it.3 ecus later,60$ in shipping later.its really f*cking annoying.hes a nice guy and all but never answers his phone(ive called during business hours),pretty much refuses to just give me a refund,and takes days to respond to emails.customer service could just be a little better.i understand he might be busy,but if your that busy hire some help...... i just want my f*cking money back.... :cry:
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I would call for a ban, but I think we deserve some more B.S. excuses from douchebag mcgee.

What about these guys Jason? You said you were better now. You said you were honest. You said you were available for contact.

Let me guess... An alien abducted your grandma and you were out making a movie with seth rogan about it.

KA-T members and beyond, be sure to echo this information. Link this thread and others about him in your sig posts on this and other forums. When you go to events, make sure to be vocal about what you know about EMANCE. Be sure to spread the word about this pollution in our community pool. Be proactive and make sure your peers are not screwed over like this. DO NOT LET SCAMMERS PERSIST. When the law doesn't help us, we help each other.
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no experiance necessary!!!!!!

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I am not one to bag on anyone but it was definitely easy for me to find negative about this guy before I turboed my car and that is why I went with a Known company like Jwt originally. I think most people look at dollars signs right in front of them and don't really think about outcomes or possibilies. I first seen him on ebay and was sketched out because he uses Jwt and enthalpy to sell his product. I'm sure some people have gotten good tunes from this guy for the right injectors and mafs. To me their are so many variables that take place that can change how a tune works in one car or another. When I look around at alot of other ka-t's I see alot of guys that have some dodgy looking engine bays and I can see the ones that really go cheap so I am very biased and would not want to be Jason at this point of his business. If I were jason I would just tune locally cause it seems he is good locally. All of this is from reading as I have no experience what so ever with his tunes.

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oh well f*ck me with a blow torch,13 days later he finally responded and he sent out my "defective" ecu. still dont have a tune that works but w.e im sick of the bs.
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Bringing this thread up again...
I was skeptic about this tune looking at the posts and threads allover the places... but the price was tempting so I ordered his tune...
The car idles VERY lean (but solved the problem with SAFC2)
I did not expect a great tune made by mailing the ECU... but I can tell that it works and AFRs are pretty good expect for idle.
I'm a satisfied customer! made little adjustments with SAFC2 and it WORKS GREAT!!!
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Post by nissy92 »

Well f*ck me,1 out of hundreds of customers got a decent tune.he prolly bought a jwt tune and slapped his sticker on it.f jason,i hope nothing but the worst for him
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im totally happy with my tune also
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I also had a good experience with him with my first tune he sent me. After upgrading my turbo only, it took 2 tries for him to half way get it right. At that point, I learned myself how to tune, and fix the problems.
I don't hate the man, I just know he's busy, and doesn't have tons of time on his hands.

Take that as you will. I am still trying to get ahold of him for a base tune for my new setup. (Hopefully, I can get in touch with Enthalpy for a dyno tune.) I anticipate not having 100% compatibility with the tune, but I also have an idea of what I'm doing. (not really, lol)


Anyways, it's up and down with Jason. He will fix what is wrong if you can get in touch with him, I'm sure. But getting in touch with him seems to be the issue. If you can explain what your problems are to him, he can fix them. But just telling him it doesn't work, that **** wont fly. You have to know what is wrong before he can fix it.

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well i have an emance ecu. and the thing didnt even work. the guys at the shop where i took my car put it in and nothing. that thing was a piece of ****. i guess im just another one of the guys that found out about emance too late. another vitcim to emance FTL
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the victims to success story ratio here is a little askew, its like flip a coin and pay your money, you have a 25% chance of getting what you paid for!
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ok, im gona start messing with it, and ofcourse i got a wide band.
in another note.. i know 8-bit will be interested lol.
so i had gotten an emance ECU, ofcourse it didnt work the car wouldnt even crank .so i contacted the guy. lol
first he said.. oh are you sure it the ecu I i said yea becuase it turns on when the stock on is in there. then he said check the codes.. and im thinking if its not throwing codes with my stock ecu , why would it do it wih the other one.
and the last thing he said was...LOL may be the eprom came loose during shipping...
yea i just though i share with you guys.. ..
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h240sx wrote:ok, im gona start messing with it, and ofcourse i got a wide band.
in another note.. i know 8-bit will be interested lol.
so i had gotten an emance ECU, ofcourse it didnt work the car wouldnt even crank .so i contacted the guy. lol
first he said.. oh are you sure it the ecu I i said yea becuase it turns on when the stock on is in there. then he said check the codes.. and im thinking if its not throwing codes with my stock ecu , why would it do it wih the other one.
and the last thing he said was...LOL may be the eprom came loose during shipping...
yea i just though i share with you guys.. ..
So he isn't ignoring you after your purchase and is trying to help you find the problem? I don't see the problem.
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crazys14 wrote:
h240sx wrote:ok, im gona start messing with it, and ofcourse i got a wide band.
in another note.. i know 8-bit will be interested lol.
so i had gotten an emance ECU, ofcourse it didnt work the car wouldnt even crank .so i contacted the guy. lol
first he said.. oh are you sure it the ecu I i said yea becuase it turns on when the stock on is in there. then he said check the codes.. and im thinking if its not throwing codes with my stock ecu , why would it do it wih the other one.
and the last thing he said was...LOL may be the eprom came loose during shipping...
yea i just though i share with you guys.. ..
So he isn't ignoring you after your purchase and is trying to help you find the problem? I don't see the problem.
the problem is the ecu not working, obviously
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the problem is the ecu not working, obviously
i'm pretty confident he will work with you to get it running correctly
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crazys14 wrote:

the problem is the ecu not working, obviously
i'm pretty confident he will work with you to get it running correctly
I'm pretty confident he wont. at least based on all of the people who testify that he wont... i mean.. maybe he will.. maybe he will turn over a new leaf and give a crap about this one... maybe at least because its being watched by people in realtime right now.
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8-bit wrote:
crazys14 wrote:

the problem is the ecu not working, obviously
i'm pretty confident he will work with you to get it running correctly
I'm pretty confident he wont. at least based on all of the people who testify that he wont... i mean.. maybe he will.. maybe he will turn over a new leaf and give a crap about this one... maybe at least because its being watched by people in realtime right now.
why dont you give someone a chance instead of always saying they wont?? give him some time
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Post by PuNcHdRuNk »

i have gotten more tech support from cody (8-bit) for free than i would ever get in a million years and a million calls and emails from jason, and i PAID for jasons help. just shows who gives a sh*t about the community and who is here to make a fast buck.
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