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Daigle’s S14

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:00 pm
by sdaigle240
December 1 2008


Yo yo whats up. I wanted to put together a build thread, that hopefully others can gain from down the road, and ill have a place to gather what ive done. And most of all get suggestions and even some positive critism, b/c this is my first turbo project, so it’s all a learning experience to me.

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stock 95 KA with 116k, owned since 71k
GT3251E .60 compressor and .63 exh. 52trim comp. wheel & 72 trim turbine wheel (now hy35)
Tial WG
ETD mani
Fizzy's DP full 3", i added a bung for my dwn stream sensor and a slash cut pipe for (THIS WAS CHANGED)
pcv setup (changed to VTA)
N1 duals
tomei 740's
CalumRT ECU
innovate lc1 xd16 WB
some sort of a EBC planning on running 12-14 (went TRu Boost)
oil press temp and coolant temp gauges (stri dsd)
1g DSM BOV recircd
draw through n62
cx racing fmic
koyo cuz it was cheap
alt fans b/c the shroud was a whore to fit up.
oil cooler in my future

on with the pictures

naturally i started at the manifold/turbo mock up. this is maybe a month or two old, but starting from the beginning:
S14 abs booster and gt32 with 4bolt and .63
the etd website shows a totally diffrent story with a 5bolt housing in a s13

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so then i got a s13 5 spd booster
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next problem was the AC line. i was lucky enough to aquire fiznats DP and manifold, but hadent accounted for the diffrent boosters, diffrent exit points of the brake lines and him not having AC.
wouldnt bolt up to the turbo b/c the ac line.
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so.....
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no pry bars were hurt in the making of this "custom" ac line.
worked well......i just made a little adaptor plate to hold the ac line to the fire wall in the original spot.



clearences were still sketchy
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i ended up finding a S14 non abs 5 spd booster...the slimest one and that helped maby another 1" or so. im racing the snow here so i just want to get it running, play with the calum ecu a bit and put her away till spring. so i plan on Banjo SS lines and or a RHD master. but i need a 1" or 17/16" one so i wasnt having to much luck as most are outta silvias.


got all my gaskets cut on our lazer to save a dolla
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made one of these at work
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hummm.... next problem was how i needed to clock the turbo wasnt possible b/c a comp. bolt. hitting the AN return fitting.
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so i measured my clearence with the AN tighened with a flat side parallel to the bolt head, an had about 2.75 mm. so i ground the bolt down to that thickness and made a 12mm wrench outta 2.5mm steel. worked great.


so now i needed to modify the cx racing hot pipe. i cut the 2" elbow off, and roughly 2" of straight 2" section and welded the elbow back on at the appropriate angle. im no pro at welding and started learning when i started the project to help. any way they hold and will look great when painted black.
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Pan
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some fun stuff inbetween
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heres how i did the bumper support.
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felt just as strong as b4

im all about the sleeper status, so my goal was to keep the fogs and i was also hoping to leave the washer rez.

sucess
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fits nice on the cold side
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for the hot side
i just cut the elbow off and got a 45* elbow and it should connect up nice, couplers in the mail. my welds appearence wernt super pretty so i figured the less the better.
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i got a 36$ thermo tec turbo blanket kit from summit.. i def reccomend it. they give you tons of material, u could make 4 of them. so i had plenty for elsewhere.
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mani shot
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tha bay
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i made a maf adaptor and just went with a 90* right off the bat to avoid idle issues. and yes, kept the charcol canister....ct emissions.
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still to.......

weld 1g DMS flange to hot pipe and recirc tube to intake.

need to decide if i want my VC going into my PCV setup or an open breather.
oh yeah heres how i did my PCV
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wire up relay for second altima fan. going to be running them with the AC map through tunerpro.

wire up
n62
Fuel pump
innovate WB
STri oil press, oil temp. coolant temp.
need to decide between profec and tru boost still and wire that up as well.
decide if i wanna do the greddy t stat sandwich and oil cooler set up, or just get a 3 port sandwich for right now.
install calumsult ecu
fluids
.....and hope to god she starts.

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:58 pm
by turbo2nr
very nice build! cant wait to see your numbers.

i like how you did your intercooler support im gona do the same, question where did you mount the top of your fmic to?

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:40 pm
by sdaigle240
hey thanks man.

heres the top.....drilled new holes
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heres the bottom, just bent the cx racing provided brackets and used an existing hole on the core support.
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still to decide if the IC is gettin painted black too.

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:56 pm
by sdaigle240
and i should prolly provide the set up and interests

im into track days and auto x, but id give a drift event a shot

stock 95 KA with 116k, owned since 71k
GT3251E .60 compressor and .63 exh.
Tial WG
ETD mani
Fizzy's DP full 3", i added a bung for my dwn stream sensor and a slash cut pipe for pcv setup
N1 duals
tomei 740's
CalumRT ECU
innovate lc1 xd16 WB
some sort of a EBC planning on running 12-14
oil press temp and coolant temp gauges (stri dsd)
1g DSM BOV recircd
draw through n62
cx racing fmic
koyo cuz it was cheap
alt fans b/c the shroud was a whore to fit up.
oil cooler inmy future

running on 18lb track editions with rt 615's
agx w/s techs, was forced into these durring college do to $, so upgrade in the future.
all motoria arms front and back, still running strong after several track and auto x events and 15k miles. still to install teflon heims from midwestcontrollproducts.com
subframe spacers
stock sways for now, id like an adjustable front for spring.
just need ebrake assbly and will install full z32 brake conversion. the stockers seemed to work fine but gave out on me a few times at LimeRock Raceway durring the later heats.

id like to push the limits of my tuning skill and my stock block. when i reach this point i will have a built block ready to go.

added all this junk to avoid simple questions.


Thanks,

Steve

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:35 am
by flip240
awesome build man

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:52 pm
by sdaigle240
hey thanks phil, curious, u running a stock block?

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm
by sdaigle240
gifts from the ups man today.....

45* coupler
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:47 pm
by TanManS14
How exactly do you use the map to control the fans? I have mine wired that way too.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:02 pm
by sdaigle240
HAHA...i'll let u know when i get there. theres something on it on eccs , emo tactical was the one who i heard about it from. from my breif research theres a few cells, that go by deg C one of the cells is a trigger to set the fan on then theres a seperate value for X amount of degrees deviance that shuts it off.




managed to cut a 1.5" radius into a 1.25"D pipe for the recirc today. as well as a 1.25" rad into my tube that connects the flange to my IC pipe. it was pretty sketchy using just half the hole saw to cut a pipe thats at a 45* angle but it worked and now they sit nicely on the larger pipes. all ready for mock up and TIG'in

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:19 pm
by TanManS14
Huh, sounds pretty sick. Post up more info if you ever figure it out. Thanks for the help bro.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:40 pm
by prento84
Niiiiice I should do a pic thread like this with my t25 build.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:28 pm
by sdaigle240
^ thanks, you should man, its a big help, some wouls say i went over the top with pictures, but personally these over the top threads were a huge help to my durring the research and problem solving stages of this build.


NEW GOODIES thanks 240sxmotoring
white face b/c their a pretty good match to the stock SE gauges
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should look good with a little plastic and bondo when done.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:17 pm
by Daily Driven 240
quick question did you put your vacuum block before or after the check valve on the brake booster hose?

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:30 pm
by sdaigle240
i used tryingtoturbo's usefull thread
viewtopic.php?t=28934&highlight=guide


would anyone like to add what their prefered boost source is.... booster line or turbo?

id guess even an ebay IC wouldnt have much pressure drop but ive never seen testing.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:39 am
by Daily Driven 240
cool thanks thats a nice thread and it also answers my question.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:19 pm
by sdaigle240
^ haha sorry i forgot toeven answer ur Q



So i fail...... my gaol was to be boosted b4 first snow fall....it snowed tonight

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:49 pm
by sdaigle240
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how i combat the cold 250,000btu's! :boink:
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turbo jacket

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:13 pm
by absolum
where can I get a turbo exhaust housing jacket like that?
seriously I need one ,engine bay is getting too hot under boost.

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:30 pm
by sdaigle240
like it says mang "i got a 36$ thermo tec turbo blanket kit from summit.."


so i screwed up.....i didnt wet the exhaust wrap.....am i going to have to redo it or can i just put a bunch of metal ties on it???

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:22 pm
by sdaigle240
finished the recirc on the intake today.
hey, im gettin better at welding!

wish i could have done it with out tacking it first, and i wish i found the gas cup b4 i had to do the tight spot.
camera blows, its all i got
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:14 pm
by sdaigle240
random question, do you guys put clamps/ties on your vac/boost lines? i noticed the barbs hold line really well but having a WG line pop off would suck

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:28 pm
by street_240sx
ive seen zip ties lol and they seem to work

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:23 pm
by DrEaMeR_VaNg
I like how the CXracing FMIC kit is working with everyone who's getting one.

I have a JGS manifold and wanting to clock my turbo the same way as you so I get some clearance to run my intake pipe for my maf. How much modification did you have to do to the hotpipe to make it fit right?

I'm in need of some new pipings and a new FMIC. How big are the pipings? Oh and which buyer did you buy your kit off from on EBAY? I see two or three different sellers.

Let me know. Thanks. :D

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:20 am
by sdaigle240
if u cant TIG, then u could do it by cutting out 2" of the 2.5" section of the hot pipe, throw a coupler on there and be done. since ive been learning to tig i just cut the 2" elbow off........... and roughly 2" of the straight 2" section, and welded the elbow back on at the appropriate angle, rotated about 180*
for the lower pipe as you see i just cut the elbow off and got a 45* coupler. i mounted mi IC real close to the rad support to clear the bumper so it may be diffrent for you.

i bought it from the cx racing seller on ebay, the emails were from sales@cxracing.com. the piping is
upper hot: 2" into 2.75"
lower hot: 2.75"
IC 2.75" in and out and core is 3x 12x 24 (iirc 31.5" end to end.
lower and upper cold: 2.75"

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:30 pm
by memphis
nice

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:37 am
by sdaigle240
thanks man, gotta fly out to cali for the week, which sucks for the project but still hopeing to start it up around xmas. tryina get some pics of the finished hot pipe up...but i ran outta gas on friday and am leaving tommorw at noon. looks like im gonna be comming to work on my time off to finish up...boo!!

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:34 pm
by DrEaMeR_VaNg
Thanks for the response man.

I hope I can get the pipe cut and reweld and be done with it when I do get the CX IC kit.

Thanks again, good luck with boosting!

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:16 am
by sdaigle240
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finished the hot pipe & intake
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got a 42k btu setup, the 250k was killing me.
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:03 am
by lancet913
looks very good!! I
It modivates me to get my **** together and finish mine.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:54 am
by TinyT
propane heat+sealed garage=eyes burning