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Post by wannaboost? » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:09 pm

Building this car to travel in 2011. Let me know what you think!
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Post by TinyT » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:19 pm

Looks good overall. Welds look kinda rough, did you fab everything or have someone do it? not hating btw.
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Post by wannaboost? » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:27 pm

A buddy and i did the cage.
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Post by TinyT » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:48 pm

what technique are you using for mig welding?
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Post by wannaboost? » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:54 pm

Pretty much pulsed most of this. I hate to say it but the welding was very rushed. We tried to do it the best we could with the time. We had rented a friends shop with 220 and stuff.

Any tips? I would like to do fab as a career and im only 19 so now is the time to learn lol.
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Post by sloka-t » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:05 pm

the cage fits terribly. there's no reason those gussets on the A and B pillars should have to be so big unless youre trying to show off or something.
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Post by smbonn2005 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:07 pm

Did you make the bars for the cage yourself or was it a kit? Definately could have hugged the chassis a lot closer either way

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Post by TinyT » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:13 pm

Well the biggest thing is slowing down, but I can understand your situation of renting a space to do it, and not much time.

A little more heat in the welds and I wouldnt have even commented on it. for mig welding, just straight up traveling along the joint with no torch movement does plenty fine. this technique makes for a super nice bead though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4RrDeUKcH4.

Welding in a car is a whole different animal and takes time to get good at, even mig welding. If you want to do cages in the future, Id recommend notching some scrap and practicing welding them up.
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Post by TinyT » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:15 pm

sloka-t wrote:the cage fits terribly. there's no reason those gussets on the A and B pillars should have to be so big unless youre trying to show off or something.
Oh please, the guy is trying. The fit is fine.
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Post by wannaboost? » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:27 pm

Thanks for the constructive comments. We bent the entire thing out of 1 3/4x .095 DOM. My only regret would be to have tried to get the a pillars slightly closer. And of course welding inside a car is just going to take practice. Id say im satisfied with the rest of the turnout. Not trying to boast but this thing will far exceed what i have seen pass Formula D tech inspection.
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Post by jwrose » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:56 pm

what all do you have for suspension? cage looks pretty good
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Post by sloka-t » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:38 pm

TinyT wrote:
sloka-t wrote:the cage fits terribly. there's no reason those gussets on the A and B pillars should have to be so big unless youre trying to show off or something.
Oh please, the guy is trying. The fit is fine.
99% of the time i agree with what you have to say. this is that one percent i dont. i understand time restraints and stuff, but i'm pretty sure i could fit a small child between the body pillars and cage pillars.
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Post by all shal perrish » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:25 pm

sloka-t wrote:
99% of the time i agree with what you have to say. this is that one percent i dont. i understand time restraints and stuff, but i'm pretty sure i could fit a small child between the body pillars and cage pillars.

then do it, and show us all how great you are.. if your so great you can tear down a guy for honestly trying, then post up YOUR cage and how great the fitment is, otherwize, shut the hell up
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Post by TinyT » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:25 pm

its hard to follow the a pillar when you dont run a halo bar.
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Post by Jordan Gladman » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:06 pm

Looks good to me, I wouldnt have pulse Mig'd though. Just get the heat and wire right and position yourself comfortably so you can lay a super smooth weld. Try and get around the whole joint only stopping 1 or 2 times to reposition. Hit the welds with a low grit grinding disc and take off the high spots, it will improve the look without effecting the strength of the welds. You can even go over the welds with a finger and some body filler pre-paint.

The fit looks ok, but you might find your helmet bonking the A-pillar bar just trying to sit in your car. The front bars have to be quite tight to get a comfortable fit.
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Post by Jackasknissan » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:18 pm

wannaboost? wrote:Thanks for the constructive comments. We bent the entire thing out of 1 3/4x .095 DOM. My only regret would be to have tried to get the a pillars slightly closer. And of course welding inside a car is just going to take practice. Id say im satisfied with the rest of the turnout. Not trying to boast but this thing will far exceed what i have seen pass Formula D tech inspection.


I heard rumor that they were going to 0.095" wall 1 7/8 dom


fyi " pulsing like that leads to uneven roots, and are a much weaker weld



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Post by sloka-t » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:03 am

all shal perrish wrote:
sloka-t wrote:
99% of the time i agree with what you have to say. this is that one percent i dont. i understand time restraints and stuff, but i'm pretty sure i could fit a small child between the body pillars and cage pillars.

then do it, and show us all how great you are.. if your so great you can tear down a guy for honestly trying, then post up YOUR cage and how great the fitment is, otherwize, shut the hell up
he asked for criticisms you ******ng idiot.

the rest of the car looks great. ka-t, big turbo, big intercooler, blah blah blah. cool stuff. cage doesnt fit that great. thats all i'm saying.

so are you going to go suck the OP's cock if my criticisms make him sad?
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Post by sh1tsweak » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:58 am

cage looks a bit far awat from the a pillars imho. nice work though

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Post by all shal perrish » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:28 am

all im saying is, if your so so great that you can tear into the dude for honestly trying, you at least better be able to do it better personally.. all i wanna see is your perfect fitting cage, that is all.

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Post by wannaboost? » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:13 am

Wow, lots of clutter in here.
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Post by Jordan Gladman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:18 pm

sloka-t wrote:
all shal perrish wrote:
sloka-t wrote:
99% of the time i agree with what you have to say. this is that one percent i dont. i understand time restraints and stuff, but i'm pretty sure i could fit a small child between the body pillars and cage pillars.

then do it, and show us all how great you are.. if your so great you can tear down a guy for honestly trying, then post up YOUR cage and how great the fitment is, otherwize, shut the hell up
he asked for criticisms you *****ng idiot.

the rest of the car looks great. ka-t, big turbo, big intercooler, blah blah blah. cool stuff. cage doesnt fit that great. thats all i'm saying.

so are you going to go suck the OP's cock if my criticisms make him sad?
There are 2 ways to provide constructive criticism. Rudely and politely. 1 will put a persons back and up and cause them to be defensive, the other will evoke change.

There is no room on this forum under any circumstance to tell someone to suck anyones cock. I didnt think 10 year olds could drive a car anywhere in the states, so it surprises me that someone evidently this young would be building a KA-T and participating on an online forum.
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Post by wannaboost? » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:07 pm

Thanks to those that support. Lol Jordan, who is 10 years old?
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Post by Jordan Gladman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:19 pm

I dunno, I stopped calling people cock suckers when I was 10... do the math :lol:
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Post by Jmcc » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:32 am

car is looking good.

who cares what the cage looks like as long as it will do the job it was made for.

but i know we all wish you will never have to find out.

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Post by katrecipe » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:05 am

damn the cage looks good and the rest of the car is nice sir...
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Post by wannaboost? » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:32 am

Thanks guys! Ill try and post more pics as i come along.
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Post by insane wayne » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:32 pm

Looks good, definitely better than anything I could put together at this point.

I had a question about it though. I may be incorrect but I always thought the diagonal brace behind the seats (top right to bottom left) had to be the solid bar while the cross bar (shoulder height, straight right to left) is the one that is supposed to be cut. Does anyone know if that is actually from a rule book, or is it just more generally used because it's a better design?

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Post by wannaboost? » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:05 pm

You are correct. Up until the start of the 2010 season of Formula Drift, the diagonal tube had to be solid. Now they give you the choice between the two.
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Post by DEEPfrom1 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:08 am

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