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Re: airman's build - **strange transmission issue? 7/18**

Post by hpipro4 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:41 am

is that a custom twin scroll mani your using?

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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/18.

Post by airman » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:01 am

adamky wrote:Honestly, I was trying to get it out really quick, which is what led to this. Now, every time I look in the mirror, I get to see a reminder about why it's important to do things the slow and careful way.
Sucks man. But yep - that's how I cut my finger to the bone. Rushing - I knew the wrench wasn't exactly the best tool to use, but I was already laying on the floor and it was there.

Good news everyone - 3rd time is the charm it seems. Either that, or the lack of a dust plate made the engine unhappy, even though I haven't run them in the past! I've got 6 bolts on the bell housing locked onto the block, and the engine spins free.

Hooorraaayyy.

So, just two weeks behind. No worries :P Cool though, still :D One step closer.

@hpipro yes sir, I was told he had make it for him custom. See link below, I got most everything from this fellow. No badging on it that I can find, but it is well-made. WG placement isn't optimum though, so I may be modifying that when I get the chance.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by S14wayz » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:36 am

hell ya man, can't wait to see this beast move under its own power :) better make some videos!
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:40 am

Hell yea ^_^

Gotta get her up and running first. Hopefully soon. Bout to start putting the rest of the pieces back on.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by TrackStarGT » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:18 am

Airman, where you at? Need to see some progress! ;-)
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by supakat » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:56 am

I know he got her running so post a vid of it idling at least.
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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:57 am

Sorry everyone, I've been out of town this weekend!

Back in the game.

Idle video, you can see my RPM sync issues. Doesn't rev. AFRs bouncing from 13s to 16s.

Only pulling 50kPa vacuum (about 11in-hg), but that may be my new normal with undegreed Stage 2 cams and an RPM/timing issue. Upper timing is dead on. I will post the picture from home this afternoon to make sure everything is happy and you guys agree.

Compression test coming later. Ah, a tool I actually don't have haha xD. Boost leak test showed some leaking around the injector grommets. Looks like these may be tricky to seal, but I know I can improve it still.

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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by supakat » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:21 am

She sounds like a beast. Is that open downpipe? Once you get it sorted out, it will be nasty. Can't wait to see it rip. Good work.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:49 am

Ya that is open downpipe! I will end up putting some sort of exhaust kit on it but I want to get it under its own power before I start focusing on that. Too determined, haha :twisted:

I can hear the injectors clacking at idle. Tell me that ain't crazy!
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by Gotenks64 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:13 am

When I put my grommets on for the injectors I cleaned up the seating area with a scotch bite, then I put a little gasket sealer around the inner circle. Then I rotated them back and forth that seemed to fix mine! Sounding good though, I love that manifold!
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by supakat » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:27 am

Yea, the injectors will tick. I got use to mine. My 1000cc Bosch ticked with stock ecu as well. But the 1600cc tick a tad bit louder. Same with my boys S14 KA with same injectors as mine.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by Gotenks64 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:06 am

How close is your down pipe to the BMC?
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:39 am

Yeah, with the injector grommets you can tell my spacers are just a haaaiiirrr too short. If I tighten them too much, it opens up a small slit on the front sides of the grommets. I will try some sealant and be a little more deliberate when assembling it. As far as BMC clearance it's an inch or two. I will find a picture and get one up here for you.
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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by S14wayz » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:46 pm

That's beauty bro! Keep us updated can't wait to see you taker fer a rip :) That fricken manifold is nastyy totally puts the cherry on top of how badass this build is!
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by shift_down » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:31 am

Beast mode!
Looks purrrrty too.
We need race videos.

I do not condone the acts of street racing. Pssst, street race videos please
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:21 am

I will totally show some non-American, non-illegal racing activity from a closed course. I just need to fix my horrifying sync issues first.
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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by TrackStarGT » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:27 pm

Are you sure you're not just experiencing the large injectors, and did you put large profile cams in it too? That idle sounds normal for a 600hp 4cyl lol... Looking/sounding awesome!!!
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:28 am

Check out the video and watch my RPM gauge on my laptop. It's all over the place. I am surprised it will even idle. Touch the throttle and it will choke, buck, and backfire. I am sure it isn't cams or injectors although you can hear the injectors clacking and I'm sure I'll have a little bit of lopey once it runs right :)

Two long pulses adjacent to each other, and then a triple long pulse towards the end - all in the same data log! WTH lol.

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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by torquefreaks » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:44 am

quicker responses and searching for similar problems at.. http://www.msextra.com/forums/index.php

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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by TrackStarGT » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:46 pm

^^^ I second that! Those guys over there are awesome, just keep them happy by posting your .msq and .msl
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Post by supakat » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:15 am

:angry-teeth: I am trolling.

He corrected the issue. Waiting to hear what was the solution. Glad you got it figured out.

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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:11 am

Tuning the VR circuit is what cleaned it up :) On the MS boards there are potentiometers for adjusting threshold voltages/hysteresis.

Now to clean up the loose ends and hopefully get it on the road. I've saved bleeding the brakes for last, and I'm interested to see if the bubble flare I made suffices for the lack of the flare insert on my Z32 BMC. We shall see :)
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Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by torquefreaks » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:59 am

isn't the vr circuit for a/c voltage crank sensors? my board does even have those on it

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Post by supakat » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:04 am

Good to know airman. Thanks for the insight.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by S14wayz » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:46 pm

yo airman, that manifold you got does it utilize the stock cast aluminum flange?? After looking at the video looks like the stock fuel injector ports there just welded up?? I wanna use the stock flange to make mine but I heard when welding to cast aluminum the weld can get porous and lead to a boost leak
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:49 am

The stock injector bungs are welded shut and there are injector ports further up each runner. I will try to get a good picture for you.

I'm sure if preheated and careful working - not getting it too hot will keep it from getting porous.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by S14wayz » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:15 pm

airman wrote:The stock injector bungs are welded shut and there are injector ports further up each runner. I will try to get a good picture for you.

I'm sure if preheated and careful working - not getting it too hot will keep it from getting porous.
hmm interesting that makes some sense. Going to try and get on the CNC and make a flange that way but incorporating injector bungs may get a little tricky. Thanks yeah a pic would be nice :) I can't wait to see you shred some tires :D
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:56 am

Got a little update, cleaned up some wiring and finished my cold pipe + BOV flange.

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-Still need some clamps for the hot pipe.
-Need to finish putting my wiring back together (mainly the grounds for my LS coils, need to try to wire in my dash tach and wideband input).
-Set up auto table switching for boost maps
-Install front brake pads (bought the wrong pads for my Q45 swap -__- I think I bought '97 for some reason, and you need 90 or 91-96)
-Bleed brakes and hope my bubble flare works in place of the internal ferrule that is suppose to be in the Z32 rear outlet port
-Ensure all suspension/drivetrain bolts are tightened appropriately
-Clean up wiring inside the cabin
-Install passenger seat
-Burn up the rest of my 93 octane and drive to the E85 station
-Profit
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:01 pm

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Open downpipe..oomph O_O

Now to get tuning and continuing my button-up process.

Also, I need to figure out exactly how my adjustable suspension arms work. Definitely gots to do some adjustment.
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Re: Re: airman's build - back in business 7/25

Post by airman » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:27 pm

Injector bung pic for S14wayz

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