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Takata green ??????
gotta match my takata te's!!
just finished my cage ! now im getting my engine bay ready to paint then my cage!
just finished my cage ! now im getting my engine bay ready to paint then my cage!
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Dont talk down to people when you yourself cant do the thing you are talking abouttom550 wrote:ok so why does every one spot weld the tubs? just too lazy to fully weld them?
A. You dont know he is not going to fully weld it
B. It is more than structurally sound with stitch welds opposed to full welds.
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yea lazy as in did you not want to weld the whole thing. you said spot welds make it structurally sound so saying you didnt want to fully weld it cuz its just as strong with spot would have answered me. its not like i said you should have fully welded it cuz now its not as strong. or anything like that. i just asked why.
your telling me to learn more about cars and yet you sit there and cause this crap when you could have just done a simple answer.
your telling me to learn more about cars and yet you sit there and cause this crap when you could have just done a simple answer.
Yes stitch welds are more structurally sound than perimeter. However, those spot tack welds are not stitch welds. Which he still may be doing but then you get into intersection of welds and thats a whole different issue.TinyT wrote:Dont talk down to people when you yourself cant do the thing you are talking abouttom550 wrote:ok so why does every one spot weld the tubs? just too lazy to fully weld them?
A. You dont know he is not going to fully weld it
B. It is more than structurally sound with stitch welds opposed to full welds.
Either way, they will be strong enough for what its purpose is.
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The primary reason why you tack weld sheet metal is to prevent distortion along the panel length and width. If you tried to weld a continuous bead, the heat that you put into the panel could warp it. If you tack it, you put just down just enough to mechanically fasten it all along its edges. I've seen short < 1" weld along the periphery as well. I imagine you could do that, then go back and back fill if you wanted. It would be time consuming to go slowly and with low heat, small rod to avoid warping. Or you could just seal it with auto body sealant and paint over it. Maybe spray line the fender and call it a day. It would only be stronger under destructive deformation (crash) if it was fully welded vs. adequately spot or stitch welded.
I've met tom550. He climbs at the same gym as I do. He's a good guy, and I don't think he means to be disrespectful in any way. I think that's indicated when he poses questions rather than makes statements and tempered by the fact that when he refers to laziness, he's most likely being self referential, thinking, "If I (tom550) was going to weld tubs in my 240, I could save some work by spot tacking the panels." = "Lazy" in his own vernacular. Also, he's like 18. I know now that I didn't know crap back then and that some of the stuff that came out of my mouth didn't alway have its exact intended effects. It happens. Move on.
Let's not bicker. I enjoy this forum without it. Be constructive and helpful, even when it's intended as a "corrective" action, please.
I've met tom550. He climbs at the same gym as I do. He's a good guy, and I don't think he means to be disrespectful in any way. I think that's indicated when he poses questions rather than makes statements and tempered by the fact that when he refers to laziness, he's most likely being self referential, thinking, "If I (tom550) was going to weld tubs in my 240, I could save some work by spot tacking the panels." = "Lazy" in his own vernacular. Also, he's like 18. I know now that I didn't know crap back then and that some of the stuff that came out of my mouth didn't alway have its exact intended effects. It happens. Move on.
Let's not bicker. I enjoy this forum without it. Be constructive and helpful, even when it's intended as a "corrective" action, please.
The 240SX is dead. Long live the 240SX!
+1 for taking the time to measure and sharpie to evenly space them though. Most people just go at it and it ends up looking weaksauce.
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I think the spot welded tubs look great!!
+1 on the progress i to will be looking to tub the front end just waiting for extra money.
+1 on the progress i to will be looking to tub the front end just waiting for extra money.
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Agreed.KoukiKAT wrote:The primary reason why you tack weld sheet metal is to prevent distortion along the panel length and width. If you tried to weld a continuous bead, the heat that you put into the panel could warp it. If you tack it, you put just down just enough to mechanically fasten it all along its edges. I've seen short < 1" weld along the periphery as well. I imagine you could do that, then go back and back fill if you wanted. It would be time consuming to go slowly and with low heat, small rod to avoid warping. Or you could just seal it with auto body sealant and paint over it. Maybe spray line the fender and call it a day. It would only be stronger under destructive deformation (crash) if it was fully welded vs. adequately spot or stitch welded.
Also... This build looks exciting! Great work so far!
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*'91 Ka Rebuild w/ stock internals
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