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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
undesiredshoe wrote:
rn240sx wrote:
turbo240ka24det wrote:
S14 Kouki wrote:
and i was on race gas which makes u run less power


Can you explain your theory behind this statement?

Tell u what.. u go fill ur tank with FULL 100 octane or more and run it for a few days and get ur as* comfortable with the feel of boost....
Then when u run OUT of that race gas... go and pump regular good ole 93 octane and go for a ride and tell me what u feel....


That statement is correct but saying that 100 octane fuel will give you less power is wrong. If you car was tuned for 93, using 100 octane would decrease hp. Tuned for 100 octane, you'll make more power at the same boost levels.


These statements are too general! I was looking for specifics like what method was used to determine the octane rating since there are more than one and what type of fuel...etc
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Turbo24sxt wrote:
awesome looking car rn240sx but damn .. make ur sig a hell of a lot smaller lol ...

im working on it, i realized afterwards that the camera was set at 5mp... OOPS..
ill get it right, but thanx for the compliment..!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
undesiredshoe wrote:
That statement is correct but saying that 100 octane fuel will give you less power is wrong.
yes it will give u less power if you DO NOT tune for the change... if all is left alone, them u WILL loose power...If you car was tuned for 93, using 100 octane would decrease hp. Tuned for 100 octane, you'll make more power at the same boost levels.


I never said anything about re-tunning or changing anything when switching from 93 to 100... so my statement still stands as TRUE.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
guess whos emanage decided to work Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
S14 Kouki wrote:
guess whos emanage decided to work Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
guess who is still faster than u.... Very Happy Very Happy j/k.
is it up and running.?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rn240sx wrote:
S14 Kouki wrote:
guess whos emanage decided to work Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
guess who is still faster than u.... Very Happy Very Happy j/k.
is it up and running.?


hahahaha u bitchhh, no i jus finished puttin the bolts on the turbo from ace i found this special nut this time and apparently it wont come loose ever again from vibration, i shall crank her tomm. and hopefully tune on fri.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hey sam....

where is ur dyno sheet...??
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Where have you been?? Haven't heard from you in a while...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kfred wrote:
With 300whp you car should trap a little over 110mph. I say you are putting down ~ 225-235whp, judging by your 98mph traps. No way you are putting down 300whp on 370s without a fmu.

Your car looks good! Now put some bigger injectors and the calumRT in her and feel what 300whp really feels like.

230whp will easily beet sr's, 350z's, swapped civics etc.
300whp and now were talking evo's, sti's, c5 vettes, and knocking on c6's and cobras.


233whp took stock evo.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kfred wrote:

300whp and now were talking evo's, sti's, c5 vettes, and knocking on c6's and cobras.

i did 370 whp and i ran a "supposit" stock C6 and he beat me by 2 cars.... We went from a 3rd gear 45 mph roll and he jumped me by about 1 car, and slowly pulled on me and he got about 2 cars, then we both dropped off, and i was at mid 5th gear...
i didnt believe he was stock so he popped the hood, showed my and he had stock intake... with stock air filter, stock ex manifold and stock catback with stock muffler and his **** SOUNDED stock when he gave it gas with low quiet idle and NO bottle anywhere in the back seat, floor board nor trunk..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
^^ there is no way in hell that that vette was stock. my buddy in his 320whp sr owned a couple c6 vettes(not z06). but with the power your making now you should be walking on z06's and 500 hp cobra's. i never got to race a z06 but i did beat a 500+ hp cobra. i have a vid of that. i only beat him by a car
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
08-09's are no joke. They commonly put down 390-400whp bone stock. GM has a winner w/the LS3. So him pulling on you a little doesn't sound unreasonable and it could very well could be tuned.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just read that Car and Driver's 2008 test vette ran a 12.4 at 116mph. Therefore, in a stock weight 240sx it will take around 340-360whp to keep up with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kfred wrote:
I just read that Car and Driver's 2008 test vette ran a 12.4 at 116mph. Therefore, in a stock weight 240sx it will take around 340-360whp to keep up with it.

That run was about 2 weeks after that 370 whp dyno at 18 psi.... If i would have taken it to 22 psi, i would have been a little bit over 400 whp and i would have prob taken him...
Stock or not, tunned or not... he jumped 1 full car immediately, then slowly gained another car and by the end it was about 2 cars past me...
Its all good. im not worried about the loss, their is ALWAYS someone faster and the fact that my little 4-banger is running with those big dogs makes me feel better, and not to mention that those results will wake up some of those hardcore domestic V8's to realize that their motor's are not the only game in town anymore...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Were you brake boosting? And are you about to make the switch to E85? I'm just a few weeks away from doing so myself.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Were you brake boosting? And are you about to make the switch to E85? I'm just a few weeks away from doing so myself.

no i was not brake boosting... Just good old fashion 3 honks and then flooring the sob... I was already at about 4500 rpm so i was already in the sweet spot for the turbo and it built up the 18 psi quick... there was no lag at all.

I already switched over to E85. I adjusted the afc to compensate for the E85 during normal idle, normal crusing and during wot. So right now its NOT fully tunned afr wise for wot but its enough to keep the motor from running lean.

i just got the emanage with the injector harness, ignition harness, map sensor and CD with the serial cable. Now im just waiting on my laptop to be switched over to Windows XP cause emanage is NOT vista compatible.

Once i get the laptop back, im gonna remove the jwt ecu and afc, put the stock ecu back in and start wiring up the emanage and get it up and running. Once i get the idle right and get it to cruise nice and smooth, then ill work on some wot pulls and start messing with timming cause i wana see what this E85 is really made of. Hell, there is a local ka-t here that did 14 psi (t04e) on stock 26 deg wot timming with stock compression on E85 and had NO knock at all and with the knock lite set at sensitivity 3..!! he said that was the hardest pull he ever felt from that motor... hehe

From what they say, E85 loves boost and loves timming..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
man I havent seen this thread in a while, yes that was me on 14 psi wit stock and lemme tell you it has response like V8, here lemme show you what im talkin about.

I raced a 04-05 Mach 1 mustang procharged (8-9 psi) he made 467 whp and heres how I did spiking to 15 psi holding 13 psi.


http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Turbo-240sx-vs-Procharged_642731.htm

2nd race i ***** up bad in 2nd gear and jus gave up. but notice how spinning away I still pulled and no brake boosting, the timing helps that spool and hit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
S14 Kouki wrote:
man I havent seen this thread in a while

hey r u going to the dyno day this sunday at gato's..?? Im going and pushing for 400 by 15 psi.. I just gotta do some runs sat night and crank timing up so i can be ready...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
S14 Kouki wrote:
Gisqc wrote:
what setup are you running to get these numbers?


Garrett GT2871R .64 a/r
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ebay intercooler
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370cc injectors
3 inch exhaust
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aem wideband
stock internals
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thats about it.


With stock internals?! Impressive, nice numbers and car. Good Luck! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LSD wrote:
according to deatschwerks fuel calculator 282 crank hp is maxing out 370's. I got a friend making 220 whp on a t25 at 9psi and he said he is maxing out his 370's. 220 whp would probably put him around 280 crank hp so the fuel calculator is pretty close.


My car did today 270 hp @ 9 psi with 370cc injectors and they still holded a bit more.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LSD wrote:
according to deatschwerks fuel calculator 282 crank hp is maxing out 370's. I got a friend making 220 whp on a t25 at 9psi and he said he is maxing out his 370's. 220 whp would probably put him around 280 crank hp so the fuel calculator is pretty close.


My car did today 270 hp @ 9 psi with 370cc injectors and they still holded a bit more.


Sorry for the doble post, my pc freezed...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kfred wrote:
With 300whp you car should trap a little over 110mph. I say you are putting down ~ 225-235whp, judging by your 98mph traps. No way you are putting down 300whp on 370s without a fmu.

Your car looks good! Now put some bigger injectors and the calumRT in her and feel what 300whp really feels like.

230whp will easily beet sr's, 350z's, swapped civics etc.
300whp and now were talking evo's, sti's, c5 vettes, and knocking on c6's and cobras.


Sorry for my ignorance, but whats a calumRT?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I guess if you guys wanna see it, poo heads. http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/TannerS14/Car%20Videos/?action=view&current=MeVsSam_0001.flv Im coming back when im tuned, gonna up the timing since its only 10 degrees up to 5k or so. We'll see how i do when its running better Wink. One of these days, im gonna win a race lol.


Nice race!
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