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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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So i finally Flew down to miami....to get my car dyno tuned...
93 octane
and i made 497whp my very first pull....
after it was all done...i made 523whp@24-25psi...pump gas
car was tuned by Angel....
i forgot my dyno sheet in glove box but when GreenKA-T comes back from Jamaica...i will have him post it up since im back in Cali....
Race gas numbers soon
refer to this thread for build...
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40847&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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new record, congrats, cant wait for some graphs! setup details?
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| sdaigle240 wrote: | | new record, congrats, cant wait for some graphs! setup details? |
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nice numbers man. congrats.
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Dam what the hell are they putting in the gas down in Florida? 
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| now i need to find somebody who can go get a print out of the 523 run..... |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| nyquil2 wrote: | | i made 523whp@24-25psi...pump gas |
Why did u even attempt to go that high on pump gas..??
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| rn240sx wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | i made 523whp@24-25psi...pump gas |
Why did u even attempt to go that high on pump gas..?? |
dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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Nyquil what are u reving to?
| rn240sx wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | i made 523whp@24-25psi...pump gas |
Why did u even attempt to go that high on pump gas..?? |
Because his setup can support it. Torque is at a safe level for pump gas. Many people have made 400 ft/lbs on pump. He is probably reving pretty high and has the mods to support it. torque also doesn't drop off like most of the ka's out there.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| TinyT wrote: | | dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
well it has to be a BIG turbo or else the tuner is a freakin moran... And btw, i have no clue on who Angel is... so that there tells me nothing hehe.
Oh and yea im sure if it started to detonate, they would have stopped, but still on pump gas..?? Granted thats one or 2 dyno runs, how consistent is that motor gonna be on pump gas once its on the street....
Im not hating the guy or anything, but that hole pump gas thing at 25 lbs.... how many guys out there on ka's pushing 25 lbs on pump gas..?? and doing it consistently.. ?? |
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he felt like doind some pulls on pump, stated he was going to do again with race gas........and the problem is?
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KA's are starting a new movement like the 2J's now. I can't remeber a movment like this as far as big power dyno's. One after the other. Great numbers man! I'll personally never would push that high on 96 octane but Miami has put out enough cars that I believe he knows what he's doing. I'm gonna take a trip down to FL and gonna catch up with Miami one of these days. Better bring me 2 barrels of race gas when I come it appears. FL represent!!!
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Oh, hell yea. Time to start planning vacation. I'll give everybody a roll call ahead of time to schedule everything out.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| rn240sx wrote: | | TinyT wrote: | | dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
well it has to be a BIG turbo or else the tuner is a freakin moran... And btw, i have no clue on who Angel is... so that there tells me nothing hehe.
Oh and yea im sure if it started to detonate, they would have stopped, but still on pump gas..?? Granted thats one or 2 dyno runs, how consistent is that motor gonna be on pump gas once its on the street....
Im not hating the guy or anything, but that hole pump gas thing at 25 lbs.... how many guys out there on ka's pushing 25 lbs on pump gas..?? and doing it consistently.. ?? |
its a gt40 and its tuned by miami240. make sense now? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| TinyT wrote: | | rn240sx wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | i made 523whp@24-25psi...pump gas |
Why did u even attempt to go that high on pump gas..?? |
dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
lol my very first pull on the dyno was 497whp... why not go for 5xxwhp then???
and my car Dailys on w/g boost which is the 431whp....it hasnt had any issues so far as of the motor.... but i had a wiring issue with my radiator fans which i fixed... |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| rn240sx wrote: | | TinyT wrote: | | dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
well it has to be a BIG turbo or else the tuner is a freakin moran... And btw, i have no clue on who Angel is... so that there tells me nothing hehe.
Oh and yea im sure if it started to detonate, they would have stopped, but still on pump gas..?? Granted thats one or 2 dyno runs, how consistent is that motor gonna be on pump gas once its on the street....
Im not hating the guy or anything, but that hole pump gas thing at 25 lbs.... how many guys out there on ka's pushing 25 lbs on pump gas..?? and doing it consistently.. ??[/ |
why build your car just to limit it?????
my motor was DD at 440whp and drove without 1 problem for well over a year...and that was a trip to Tampa from Miami... and back pushing it..and it still got home just fine...not even overheating....I built the car to make power....i am thinking about changing the turbo/manifold...just to see what changes but that will be a later project...its just a KA...lol i blow it...go to a junkyard and get another 1...couldnt say that if i had a 1j/2j or RB |
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 this are some nice numbers
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| nyquil2 wrote: | | ...its just a KA...lol i blow it...go to a junkyard and get another 1...couldnt say that if i had a 1j/2j or RB |
ha, i like that, well put
but the monies on the internals!!!!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| sdaigle240 wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | ...its just a KA...lol i blow it...go to a junkyard and get another 1...couldnt say that if i had a 1j/2j or RB |
ha, i like that, well put
but the monies on the internals!!!! |
lol its a iron block...i would rather buy just pistons and rods....then have to get pistons, rods, and a sleeve.... plus if it blew bcuz i was running 25psi DD then i know to turn down the boost a lil...but its not like u drive everyday going into boost...u can shift before and just cruise so i personally dont think it matters how much power u make on pump if u not ragging on your car all the time |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| nyquil2 wrote: | | sdaigle240 wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | ...its just a KA...lol i blow it...go to a junkyard and get another 1...couldnt say that if i had a 1j/2j or RB |
ha, i like that, well put
but the monies on the internals!!!! |
lol its a iron block...i would rather buy just pistons and rods....then have to get pistons, rods, and a sleeve.... plus if it blew bcuz i was running 25psi DD then i know to turn down the boost a lil...but its not like u drive everyday going into boost...u can shift before and just cruise so i personally dont think it matters how much power u make on pump if u not ragging on your car all the time |
Uh.... I take my car to full boost every time I drive it... I consider a WOT pull a daily check. From there, it is a as required check. IE, if I pass some crusty looking pedestrians, etc. Turbo car owners in the know around here accrue various "dumps" such as Public Transportation dump, construction dump, etc. This only really works if you have an open dump wastegate, and it is better at higher boost.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| nissanfanatic wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | sdaigle240 wrote: | | nyquil2 wrote: | | ...its just a KA...lol i blow it...go to a junkyard and get another 1...couldnt say that if i had a 1j/2j or RB |
ha, i like that, well put
but the monies on the internals!!!! |
lol its a iron block...i would rather buy just pistons and rods....then have to get pistons, rods, and a sleeve.... plus if it blew bcuz i was running 25psi DD then i know to turn down the boost a lil...but its not like u drive everyday going into boost...u can shift before and just cruise so i personally dont think it matters how much power u make on pump if u not ragging on your car all the time |
Uh.... I take my car to full boost every time I drive it... I consider a WOT pull a daily check. From there, it is a as required check. IE, if I pass some crusty looking pedestrians, etc. Turbo car owners in the know around here accrue various "dumps" such as Public Transportation dump, construction dump, etc. This only really works if you have an open dump wastegate, and it is better at higher boost. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| rn240sx wrote: | | TinyT wrote: | | dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
well it has to be a BIG turbo or else the tuner is a freakin moran... And btw, i have no clue on who Angel is... so that there tells me nothing hehe.
Oh and yea im sure if it started to detonate, they would have stopped, but still on pump gas..?? Granted thats one or 2 dyno runs, how consistent is that motor gonna be on pump gas once its on the street....
Im not hating the guy or anything, but that hole pump gas thing at 25 lbs.... how many guys out there on ka's pushing 25 lbs on pump gas..?? and doing it consistently.. ?? |
There aren't many out there doing it because there aren't many people in the kat community that do things right. This motor has a decent flowing turbo manifold with a decent sized turbo, ported head, cams, and a super short runner intake manifold which when all combined create lower peak torque numbers but higher numbers at higher rpm which results in HP. What kills motors from lack of octane is cylinder pressure... keeping peak torque figures low and torque ramp slow allow you to make more power safely with the same fuel not to mention it is also lower compression than stock. My tuning is always done hot lapping the car on the dyno for a couple of hours straight. I don't turn the car off or let it sit for more than a couple of minutes while i open the log and make some modifications to the tune. Coolant temp usually goes up to about 210-220 after a fourth gear 500+ hp pull with this car and goes back down to 180 within 2-3 minutes while i'm on the laptop. There isn't the least hint of knock on the logs after two hours of pull after pull. The purpose for this car isn't road racing or autox. It will be daily driven and drag raced occasionally and i believe my method of tuning is more than safe. I would tune a road race/autox car very differently. You need to stop reading the t25 and safc build threads. They seem to hinder people's ability to learn and advance.
BTW... i'm Angel the "moran"
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| Miami240 wrote: | | rn240sx wrote: | | TinyT wrote: | | dude, its a big turbo, its not like they are stretching it out to make power. and angel is tuning the thing, im sure if it would have started detonating he would have stopped. |
well it has to be a BIG turbo or else the tuner is a freakin moran... And btw, i have no clue on who Angel is... so that there tells me nothing hehe.
Oh and yea im sure if it started to detonate, they would have stopped, but still on pump gas..?? Granted thats one or 2 dyno runs, how consistent is that motor gonna be on pump gas once its on the street....
Im not hating the guy or anything, but that hole pump gas thing at 25 lbs.... how many guys out there on ka's pushing 25 lbs on pump gas..?? and doing it consistently.. ?? |
There aren't many out there doing it because there aren't many people in the kat community that do things right. This motor has a decent flowing turbo manifold with a decent sized turbo, ported head, cams, and a super short runner intake manifold which when all combined create lower peak torque numbers but higher numbers at higher rpm which results in HP. What kills motors from lack of octane is cylinder pressure... keeping peak torque figures low and torque ramp slow allow you to make more power safely with the same fuel not to mention it is also lower compression than stock. My tuning is always done hot lapping the car on the dyno for a couple of hours straight. I don't turn the car off or let it sit for more than a couple of minutes while i open the log and make some modifications to the tune. Coolant temp usually goes up to about 210-220 after a fourth gear 500+ hp pull with this car and goes back down to 180 within 2-3 minutes while i'm on the laptop. There isn't the least hint of knock on the logs after two hours of pull after pull. The purpose for this car isn't road racing or autox. It will be daily driven and drag raced occasionally and i believe my method of tuning is more than safe. I would tune a road race/autox car very differently. You need to stop reading the t25 and safc build threads. They seem to hinder people's ability to learn and advance.
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whats going on Angel....Trevor said the spark plugs are the ones u wanted and gapped to the specs u wanted and i fixed the fans b4 i left....so i guess im going to try and get a bigger fmic on and let u know and now i also have to do paint and body,,, |
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Good **** brandon, motivates me to stop being lazy and get my car tuned already lol.
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| Miami240 wrote: | There aren't many out there doing it because there aren't many people in the kat community that do things right. This motor has a decent flowing turbo manifold with a decent sized turbo, ported head, cams, and a super short runner intake manifold which when all combined create lower peak torque numbers but higher numbers at higher rpm which results in HP. What kills motors from lack of octane is cylinder pressure... keeping peak torque figures low and torque ramp slow allow you to make more power safely with the same fuel not to mention it is also lower compression than stock. My tuning is always done hot lapping the car on the dyno for a couple of hours straight. I don't turn the car off or let it sit for more than a couple of minutes while i open the log and make some modifications to the tune. Coolant temp usually goes up to about 210-220 after a fourth gear 500+ hp pull with this car and goes back down to 180 within 2-3 minutes while i'm on the laptop. There isn't the least hint of knock on the logs after two hours of pull after pull. The purpose for this car isn't road racing or autox. It will be daily driven and drag raced occasionally and i believe my method of tuning is more than safe. I would tune a road race/autox car very differently. You need to stop reading the t25 and safc build threads. They seem to hinder people's ability to learn and advance.
BTW... i'm Angel the "moran" |
+1...love the moran reply...
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| what a "moran"!!!!!! seriously like you shouldn't boost over 10 psi on pump gas because 10 is my favorite number so that must be the limit on pump gas. lol thats like saying " omg my car is overheating, let me shut the radiator fans off!" |
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| 96silvia wrote: | | Congrats on the numbers that's awesome!!!! |
The Moran of the story.......Angel knows his s*it!!
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Amaizing numbers man. Gets me excited to get mine back together and go for dyno round 2. Angel, your a Ka-t tuning god my friend. Keep up the good work.
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Agreed with Angel. Not enough KA-T peeps thinking outside the box.
Great job man
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| car should be getting a final tune on Q16 in the next few weeks...gotta fix some minor things... |
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| nyquil2 wrote: | | car should be getting a final tune on Q16 in the next few weeks...gotta fix some minor things... |
it should enjoy the q16 rather much seeing as it is enjoying itself on 93! |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: So i finally got pump gas numbers 523whp!!!! |
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| supakat wrote: | | Miami240 wrote: | There aren't many out there doing it because there aren't many people in the kat community that do things right. This motor has a decent flowing turbo manifold with a decent sized turbo, ported head, cams, and a super short runner intake manifold which when all combined create lower peak torque numbers but higher numbers at higher rpm which results in HP. What kills motors from lack of octane is cylinder pressure... keeping peak torque figures low and torque ramp slow allow you to make more power safely with the same fuel not to mention it is also lower compression than stock. My tuning is always done hot lapping the car on the dyno for a couple of hours straight. I don't turn the car off or let it sit for more than a couple of minutes while i open the log and make some modifications to the tune. Coolant temp usually goes up to about 210-220 after a fourth gear 500+ hp pull with this car and goes back down to 180 within 2-3 minutes while i'm on the laptop. There isn't the least hint of knock on the logs after two hours of pull after pull. The purpose for this car isn't road racing or autox. It will be daily driven and drag raced occasionally and i believe my method of tuning is more than safe. I would tune a road race/autox car very differently. You need to stop reading the t25 and safc build threads. They seem to hinder people's ability to learn and advance.
BTW... i'm Angel the "moran" |
+1...love the moran reply... |
+2 My little pwny
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