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Ok guys, as promised, I am hosting these binaries and posting them. If you have any tunes/binaries you would like me to add, e-mail them to: gd_el@yahoo.com Both el tigre and I use the Calum Realtime ECU, but these binaries should be sufficient on other platforms that involve binaries for tuning; if not, you could at least use the timing and fuel maps to learn from. Have fun!
I DO NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU DO WITH THESE FILES! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE TUNES AND ADJUST THEM TO FIT YOUR SPECIFIC CAR AND NEEDS! THESE ARE NOT PERFECT TUNES! DO NOT ASSUME THEY WILL JUST WORK FOR YOU!

IF YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR NEED TO WORK ON THESE TUNES AND TUNE THEM PROPERLY FOR YOUR OWN SETUP, YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE!!!



note: S13 tunes don't work on an s14 and vice-versa

FTDI Drivers for Calum Boards:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

Someone's Google Docs Folder with a Calum Starter Guide and other useful files:
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B83Mv ... dmNTAxZWIz

XDF Files
The Tunerpro S13KA XDF File
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/S13KA.xdf

S13 KA With Launch Control
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 120208.xdf
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The Tunerpro S14KA XDF File:
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/S14RT.xdf

'UPDATED S14 KA WITH LAUNCH CONTROL" from Emo_tactical9/delinquent racer
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... orking.xdf

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CALUMSULT TP BETA & LOGWORKS 2. (The 2nd link is the full installer, which I think most people will need)
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... ,%20TP.zip
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... ,%20TP.zip
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THE TUNES:
S13 Tunes
This is the stock KA24DE MT tune for your regular 91-94 ECU.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... Manual.bin


This is my past s13 tune, works pretty damn good, but could use some refining.
670cc DW injectors
T3/T04E .63 AR at 12psi (there is room for more psi on this tune)
Z32 MAFS
91 Octane Fuel
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... -12psi.BIN


The following tunes are all from el tigre. The names of the binaries seem to fit the description of the setups they are made for:
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 70-lat.bin
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 6000tp.bin
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... Calum).bin
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... maf_v3.bin


I dunno who I got this from, but I found it on my PC. From the looks of it:
T3/T04
Z32 Mafs
550 injectors
15 psi (looks variable though)
34000 K value ***This tune looks like it has some pretty advanced timing, so higher octane fuel must have been a part of it. I think I like this tune more than my current project... I might take it and modify it for my own purposes....
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 34000K.bin


Tune From Sicks13
NOTE: THIS TUNE IS HARDLY A TUNE. IT IS MOSTLY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A VQ MAP FOR A COBRA MAFS.
Cobra MAFS VQ mapped
850cc Injectors
HX35 turbo
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... c_base.bin


Tunes From GhostChild:
72lb Injectors, Z32 Mafs. Very Rich up top.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... %20MAF.bin

750cc Injectors, z32 Mafs.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... cc-z32.bin


The following 3 tunes are from NateDogg with the following information:
"Here are a few tunes for a 555cc t3t4 z32 maf setup. Run on 9:1 CR and the octane is in the title (of the tune file). Also these are a little conservative because I got ceramic coated pistons and combustion chambers so I have to run less advance due to the faster combustion of the coatings. I still recommend 1*/psi for 91 octane.
Zero vacuum is at (TP) load column 54. I make about 8psi through a cat and stock exhaust at 81 and 10psi open dump exhaust at 108.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... t10psi.bin
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... t10psi.bin
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/94oct46vac.bin

Another tune from NateDogg
T3/T4 or bigger turbo
850CC Sard injectors
Z32 maf (draw-through)
9:1 CR
94 octane
Boost-A-Spark set at 4psi
Zero vacuum is at 28TP
11psi is at 77TP
25psi on a S256 is at 112TP
Launch Control set at 3500rpm
NOTE: This is a pretty aggressive tune but shows what you can get away with on a cool day. I maxed the MAF with this...probably goin with a 4" intake and lightning maf over the winter.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 0accel.bin


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This next tune comes from PPCTX for the following setup with a Custom XDF file for Launch Control and TP monitor/logging
YOU MUST USE THE CUSTOM XDF FILE WITH THE TUNE!!!!
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740cc Nismo/Tomei injectors (.66ms)
T3/04e .60 trim .63 ar
Z32 MAF
93 Octane
s13 ka24de-t 9.5:1 compression ratio (stock block)
I'm currently running ~11.5psi but there is room for much more, abet the afr might get a little rich? With my K value and injector latency, 0 psi takes place at ~35tp and 11.5 psi is ~70tp. I have the last timing tp column set 1 deg for overboost protections. It pulls very strong and feels very linear through the vac/boost range. Idles at 14.7 afr
Tune:
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... t-t3o4.bin

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S14 Tunes
These are stock S14 tunes.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 0_1995.bin
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 92_G00.bin


This is a solid and safe tune submitted by me, 8-bit for the following setup.
95 Nistune ECU (could use tune on calum/moates/biki/etc) for S14.
91+ octane fuel
370cc SR Fuel Injectors
Stock Mafs (blowthru, but I think this will work well for recirc style draw-thru mafs as well).
The car has a GT28R on it, but this tune should be good for most any turbo.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... r-8bit.bin

This is another solid and safe tune submitted by me, 8-bit for the following setup:
95 Nistune ECU for S14
91+ octane fuel
550cc injectors (dw)
Z32 MAFS, blowthrough
The car has a GT2876R on it with 12psi WG, but tune should be fine for others.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... t2876r.bin

This tune is a 'ballpark' tune submitted PEARL240SX who got it from a guy named "Steve" for the following setup:
72lb injectors (~740cc)
Z32 MAFS
N/A (but looks to have room up to what I estimate to be about 10psi of boost).
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... Z32MAF.bin


****SPECIAL INSERT*****
Pearl240sx asked me to look at the above tune and make sure it had room for over 20psi. I rescaled the TP scales and compressed the available data on the tunes into the new scale which now has huge room probably up to something like 30psi. I'm no pro, so I really can't tell ya. The values that are in TP values higher than what was in the above tune are extremely safe and conservative to the best of my knowledge. Input from someone else with 740cc/Z32MAFS would be great, but I consider this a safe ballpark tune as well. (I also neutered the 47 deg btdc cruise down to 42 and 40).
Enjoy. 8-bit.
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... dified.bin


This tune is comes from KAV for the following setup:
740cc Deatschwerks
Z32 Mafs
T3/T04E .63 AR
"got a tune for s14 ka24de 740cc deaschewrks (however its spelled) t3/04e 50 trim .63 a/r turbo and a z32 maf, its a safe tune but it works great for breaking an engine in. if you have any suggestions to the tune hit me up. ... that tune is for 15 psi on 91 octane (note: I think it has plenty of overboost 'tune' in there as well)."
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... 3%20ar.bin


This tune is a base setup tune from JWROSE for the following setup:
t3/t04e
550cc
z32 maf
S14 95 OBD1 ECU (please let me know if this assumption is wrong dude)
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... %20MAF.bin


This tune comes from emo_tactical9 for the following details:
"Its for a completely stock S14, with 93 octane. Its really just a launch control bin with advanced timing, no speed limit, and the fifth gear stuff matched. Also, that tune is still a work in progress. The guy that made 160whp was running 33 (!) degrees timing. I'm going to ease my way up there. I'll keep you updated with the new bins.
Update "This is the tune I'm running now. Same notes as before, advanced timing, LC enabled, stock rev limit.
The fuel maps are a little bit richer from 4000 rpm up in the last tp column.
I got some knock with 93 octane when I was in NC, however, I get no knock on 93 in Kentucky. Knock detection system highly recommended. "
http://www.liquidmathematics.com/tunes/ ... ngStg1.bin
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You are the **** 8-bit :!: :!: :!: :bowdown:

I hope that this continues. im working on a z32 - 750cc 12 psi. the ones above will help alot. and i will post what i come up with when im done.
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:D :D :D :D

Thanks for this thread. Hopefully we can get a whole bunch of tunes on here, with different boost levels, injector makes/sizes, and MAF's...Will def be sending you some tunes after I figure out how to use this damn program :wink:
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Post by tomkun-s13 »

Finally guys with good moral values do the right thing and help people. You two are doing a great thing for the people here. I hope to someday finish my money-pit and host the tune as well to help out too. Again way to go guys.
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Thanks for noticing ;) lol...

i will host all the tunes I am given. feel free to send me binaries at: gd_el@yahoo.com

Give a good description of the setup it is for, otherwise users will be unable to be sure if they should use it...
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i just emailed ya a tune... host and post.. haha.. figure i could give back a little..
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Your deactwerks arent 650cc's? What happened lol.
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TanManS14 wrote:Your deactwerks arent 650cc's? What happened lol.
mine are 670s. I got a deal specifically from DW because i bought 615s that turned out to be bad and they flowtested them to confirm it and felt bad for my whole situation.
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8-bit wrote:
TanManS14 wrote:Your deactwerks arent 650cc's? What happened lol.
mine are 670s. I got a deal specifically from DW because i bought 615s that turned out to be bad and they flowtested them to confirm it and felt bad for my whole situation.
***** **** man. Yea, mine are supposedly 650cc's and ive been trying to figure out why its been running rich as ***** for the past 4 months. We're talkin so rich it will hardly idle and i cant drive it. Ive gone through everything. Checked it the resistance the other day and #4 was 15ohms. Plus the last cyl 3 and 4 sound weird when i put a screwdriver to the injectors. Its gay how they make you send em back, for the inconvienience i think they should mail me a whole new set but w/e i guess. I emailed him and he told me to return them, but i cant since they're and hour away ugg. That's prolly why mine are suckin dick.
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NOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If anyone has a question about one of my tunes, PM ME, I would prefer to talk to you before use! You can adjust for various setups whatever, just touch base with me if you are new to this and are planning on using a tune. Just to double check, etc.



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TanManS14 wrote:
8-bit wrote:
TanManS14 wrote:Your deactwerks arent 650cc's? What happened lol.
mine are 670s. I got a deal specifically from DW because i bought 615s that turned out to be bad and they flowtested them to confirm it and felt bad for my whole situation.
***** **** man. Yea, mine are supposedly 650cc's and ive been trying to figure out why its been running rich as **** for the past 4 months. We're talkin so rich it will hardly idle and i cant drive it. Ive gone through everything. Checked it the resistance the other day and #4 was 15ohms. Plus the last cyl 3 and 4 sound weird when i put a screwdriver to the injectors. Its gay how they make you send em back, for the inconvienience i think they should mail me a whole new set but w/e i guess. I emailed him and he told me to return them, but i cant since they're and hour away ugg. That's prolly why mine are suckin dick.
oh.. you are mistaken because i was not clear enough. A **** named tims_240 sold them to me, used. Deatschwerks was helpful in selling me new ones for cheap after testing the used injectors and determining that one of them was bad.
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8bit... you are correct with the assumption
but the only thing different between s13 and s14 is the .xdf you use...
shouldnt affect anything with the actual tune..
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:bowdown: hey cool! lol, good to see it on ka-t, along with your tune, all in one place.
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8-bit and El Tigre,

I am curious. Have you two dyno these tunes?

I am asking since I see some generally low numbers on the hi-octane timing maps.
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redss wrote:8-bit and El Tigre,

I am curious. Have you two dyno these tunes?

I am asking since I see some generally low numbers on the hi-octane timing maps.
ahhhh.. my tunes are for 91 octane as the high octane... I know its lame, but its californias best and I don't have water/methanol yet. I'm pretty confident that my 12psi is putting down about 300whp, but not verified via. dyno yet. I do know what 260 feels like though, and my car does what feels like 40 more (thats where i get my 300 from).

I dunno about el tigre, but a good assumption is that they are for 91 or 92 octane, that way if you put in something better it will still be good and you can modify the timing until you see knock (then back off a couple degrees).

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No dyno tune here either, mine is pretty conservative. I run 93 octane, so I could have another point or two, but they should be pretty safe for you guys. Definitely need some fine tuning for different setups though.
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Awesome. Can't wait to get the turbo on.
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Are any of these tune's based on having an open dump BOV? I wanted to know because if they arn't, what would you have to change on the tune to get it NOT to run rich after you come off boost. Also, which BOV do you guys recommend that sounds and performs good?
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MTX450 wrote:Are any of these tune's based on having an open dump BOV? I wanted to know because if they arn't, what would you have to change on the tune to get it NOT to run rich after you come off boost. Also, which BOV do you guys recommend that sounds and performs good?
I am recirculated and my wideband reports RICH for about 1/3 of a second when I shift/let-off. I honestly don't think it makes a big difference in either way... I mean... by the time your motor has lost revs from some point in boost, all that unburnt/rich fuel should probably have cycled through and your MAFS should be reporting accurate-enough values for the present (low throttle) system.

As mentioned (by someone i cannot recall right now) in the Calum RT discussion thread, TTP Min and TTP Max values are the trick to atmospherically vented BOVs.
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8-bit wrote:
MTX450 wrote:Are any of these tune's based on having an open dump BOV? I wanted to know because if they arn't, what would you have to change on the tune to get it NOT to run rich after you come off boost. Also, which BOV do you guys recommend that sounds and performs good?
I am recirculated and my wideband reports RICH for about 1/3 of a second when I shift/let-off. I honestly don't think it makes a big difference in either way... I mean... by the time your motor has lost revs from some point in boost, all that unburnt/rich fuel should probably have cycled through and your MAFS should be reporting accurate-enough values for the present (low throttle) system.

As mentioned (by someone i cannot recall right now) in the Calum RT discussion thread, TTP Min and TTP Max values are the trick to atmospherically vented BOVs.
Okay, I kind of know what you are taking about. I have looked at these tunes in TunerPro on my computer to kind of try to familiarize myself with them, so when I get my tune in, I'm not a lost soul. Where would be the best way, besides trial and error, to learn how to tune using all the values we have available to change with this open source ECU. Thanks again 8-bit.
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I learned with trial and error with very little guidance via. phone from calum. (basically him telling me what certain values affect)
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What would be the easiest way to import your fuel and ignition maps to my biki? It doesn't seem to want to import your bin. My setup is very similar to yours. S13 with 680cc injectors, 13 lbs of boost, and a Q45 MAF. I was hoping that biki could automatically adjust itself for the Q45 MAF. Could I just copy and paste your fuel and ignition tables into biki? If you have an excel spreadsheet of the maps I could do that pretty easily. Can you email them to me at my username at embarqmail.com?

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So I took my bikirom out of my SR ecu and put it in my KA ecu.

Go figure, it works perfectly! KA-T coming soon so I'll post something up.
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Okay, i've got a few questions. And they're kinda off topic.
I've got a 95 S14, and i want to get the Realtime ECU. I've heard that Calum has just recently released this one. So does it cover the OBD 1 and 2 versions? I'm not sure what i have though. I do know that my ecu has the dial on it that you can turn to have the check engine light blink the codes.
If i were to get a realtime for my S14, what def would i use and would i be able to use these bins (hypothetically)?
Also, is there a turn off the check engine light for certain things, like having a test pipe?

I know that is alot, but it's been bugging me. If I can, i would like to get it and mess with now while i'm piecing together my turbo kit.
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you gotta talk to calum about all that. calum@calumsult.com man. If your car is from the first part of the year then i'm pretty sure you're set. I think the ecu should have a big 3C on the side of it. I bought a bikirom in one of those.
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I'm bumping this back up.
I read on sr20 forums that the RT does work with the 95-96 S14 with OBDII now.
So does anyone have any tunes? Just out of curiousity.
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Post by Yoshi_hito »

someone make a base tune for me for PLEASEE
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Post by Yoshi_hito »

can anyone host the s14ka.xdf ?
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Yoshi_hito wrote:can anyone host the s14ka.xdf ?
e-mail it to me @ gd_el@yahoo.com

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i have the s14 xdf and a stock s14 also
built motor, custom bottom mount, t67, midmount i/c, blowthru z32, tial w/g, hks ssqv, d/w 740's, l/w flywheel, comp 4 puck, b&m shifter, no p/s, no a/c, no emissions

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